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Old 02-20-2013, 09:17 PM   #15
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Nice trailer, since I see a lot of tires around the unit I assume you replaced the tires, that is a such a nice unit you don't want to take any chances. Post updates.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:24 PM   #16
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I was hoping to just tie in at the grommet by the frame, but the wiring is literally falling into pieces. Is there anywhere to access it without completely disassembling the interior?
The front axle is electric and the rear hydraulic. It seems like it came that way from the factory, but who knows?
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Airstreams with tandem axles from sometime in the 1950s through sometime in the early 1960s were offered with one axle having hydraulic brakes and one axle having electric brakes. My 1964 Overlander was originally equipped in that manner, but was converted to four-wheel electric trailer brakes in the early 1970s. The reason that this option was chosen on my Overlander was that the first owners had a 1957 Mercury Monterey that was equipped to tow with hydraulic trailer brakes while their new tow vehicle was a 1964 Mercury Monterey that was equipped to tow a trailer with electric brakes . . . they switched to four-wheel electric trailer brakes when they sold the 1957 Mercury in the early 1970s.

I can't be of much help with the umbilical cord wiring on your 1958. Your coach didn't miss having a wiring junction box in the bellypan by too many years - - - by 1960, there was a junction box in the bellypan located in the front curbside corner for the umbilical cord wiring.

I spent a number of years teaching school in Western Kansas . . . mostly in Osborne County Northeast of Hays, KS. Winter storms do have a tendency to blow in with some ferocity in that region.

Good luck with your 1958 Airstream!

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Old 02-21-2013, 12:11 PM   #17
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Thanks for all the replies and general enthusiasm!
I did replace the tires and split rims before moving it. I had called ahead and ordered them from the local tire service. Unfortunately they were not able to get a more appropriate style of rim, but I will address that later.
It sounds like there may not be a junction block for the umbilical? I'm tempted to cut an access hatch into the belly pan, and install one on the frame...Is this crazy talk?
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Here is the airstream on it's first tow in at least a decade!
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:21 PM   #19
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It sounds like there may not be a junction block for the umbilical? I'm tempted to cut an access hatch into the belly pan, and install one on the frame...Is this crazy talk?
Mine was just wired in directly, no box. If you're just making the trip back to Seattle, I'd just use a set of magnetic mount temporary lights. You are almost sure to have some additional lighting issues if you try to use the original lights. Be mighty nice to have the electric brakes working.

Congrats on what looks to be a great trailer.

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Old 02-21-2013, 12:25 PM   #20
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Another old Airstream Wow

We have seen a lot old old Airstreams being rescued here lately. Where someone else may have just seen an old piece of junk you saw a rare Vintage Airstream that can be brought back to life. keep us posted with pictures of your progress.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:18 PM   #21
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After some more poking and probing it's clear that the umbilical goes into the bellypan right next to the frame rail and immediately goes up thru the floor into the space between the inner and outer shell.
So for the trip home I ran a circuit all the way back to the electric brakes, and will have to think long and hard about removing all the interior furniture, and then drill out a thousand pop rivets to remove the inner skin.
I can't see another way to fix the wiring?
On a positive note, the snow storm seems to have blown thru, and we leave for Denver at the crack of dawn.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:06 AM   #22
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:28 AM   #23
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:43 AM   #24
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... and will have to think long and hard about removing all the interior furniture, and then drill out a thousand pop rivets to remove the inner skin.
I can't see another way to fix the wiring?

Hahn
It's really not that bad, just be sure to take a lot of pictures as you go along to help you put it all back together. It's also possible (likely) that you'll find other problems, and removing the interior furniture is the best way to get your punch awl out to the perimeter of the floor to check for softness, right next to the interior skins-- the most likely place to find floor rot (aside from right under the tub and vanity, of course ).

Good luck on the tow back, this should be a great project.

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Old 02-22-2013, 05:56 PM   #26
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Hahn, looks like you have a good handle on what your doing and the needed skills to do it correctly. Your ahead of the game already.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:15 PM   #27
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How's the trip? I hope you are safely through the mountains or tucked away safely.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:29 PM   #28
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There should be a rectangle hatch on the interior skin where the wires come in. By removing that panel you will get to the junction between the trailer lights and the umbilical. It is most likely behind your gaucho. You will probably have to test each wire with a battery to see what it actually does. There will be three red wires that all look the same. One will have one knot in it, the second will have two, the third three. Those will correspond to right turn, left turn, and running lights. Not sure the code off hand, I just test it.
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