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Old 02-20-2003, 09:57 AM   #29
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If he hasn't used brakes in the 10 years he has owned it, I don't thnk 4 hours in a shop is going to get brakes working correctly.

When I bought my 1963 Overlander, it had a flat 4 prong (non brake) connector attached. I towed it home 40 miles without problem. I cut off the connector and properly hooked up a round 7 pin connector and to my suprise, the brakes worked perfectly! These brakes probably hadn't been used for years. I could lock up all 4 wheels at low speed.

Your brakes may work also.

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Old 02-20-2003, 01:22 PM   #30
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Talking Brakes! Of Course!

Thanks for your concern and further input! I was in conversation with the repair shop this morning about this issue, and he is looking forward to getting the trailer in his shop. Might have something to do with his labor rates, but I am not sure!

Regarding tongue weight loss, I need to undersatand what difference that will make. I understood that traditionally, 10-15% of the gross weight was transferred to the tow vehicle via the tongue. Since the trailer is just over 3000 lbs dry, that in theory would be 300-450 lbs. I don't remember if this trailer was sold with one or two tanks in front (probably one though), but there is nothing there now. Will that make the trailer track squirrelly? I am getting weight distribution gear with the trailer, but I do not know about a (anti-) swaybar.

I also was concerned about the tires, but he said that they are relatively new (less than 5 years), with few miles on them and look good. But then he said that he had purchased them at Walmart...and I remembered a post somewhere saying that big trailers cannot use ordinary truck the shop is going to check them too!

Man, I just want to go home. Oh, wait, I am home...arggggh...

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Old 02-20-2003, 02:48 PM   #31
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Greetings Phil and Sue!

Greetings Phil and Sue!

Your trailer would have originally had two propane tanks, and they could have been either 20 pound or 30 pounds. There are two factors that will impact the hitch weight of your trailer as you approach towing in your situation - - your water tank will be empty since you will want to avoid freezing, and this is one factor that depending upon its location can be a good portion of your hitch weight (if my memory serves correct, in your coach the water tank is very near the front of the coach and may be below the sofa under the front window); the propane tanks are a second factor, especially when full. I don't have the information readily at hand, but two filled 20 lb. steel tanks would likely weigh in the neighborhood of 60 pounds; two 30 pound steel tanks would likely weigh in the neighborhood of 75 pounds - - I suspect that aluminum tanks would reduce either total figure by about 7 pounds in either case.

With the size and weight of your tow vehicle, I don't think that you will likely notice the absence of the propane tanks if your hitch is properly setup and leveled; but you will want to be sure that the LPG regulator and its flexible hose(s) are properly secured before towing. I do believe, however, that this points to another good reason for trying to be sure that the electric brakes are functional - - as there are only two immediate means of getting a trailer back under control if "yaw" begins - - accelerating out of the situation (not always possible or practical); or applying the trailer brakes while maintaining steady speed or slightly accelerating. I suspect that your trailer will likely be at the light end of its tongue weight as the trailer will be virtually empty as will the fresh and black water tanks, no propane tanks, and no battery on board (a guess on my part).

Good luck with your project!

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Old 09-17-2003, 11:08 AM   #32
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Hello, I have a 1973 Globetrotter, it is listed as 4500 gross, I pulled it from Spokane, WA to Las Vegas, NV (12-1300 miles) with out breakes. Towed it with a Range Rover. I will say we made it just fine but for the peace of mind I would have liked the breaks operational, it would be the best thing to do, and in most states trailers weighing a certain number of pounds and the number of axles you have to have breakes and a break away switch anyway.

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