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Old 05-14-2005, 06:43 AM   #29
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All that I can say is WOW!
I thought that we had some tough regulations from state to state. California seems like nursery school compared to your regulations .

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We could open a new threat on regulations and laws in our countries... That would be interesting too, but I think no country on planet earth will beat us germans in the number of regulations and laws anyway...

Just imagine that 3/4 of all worldwide tax laws come from germany!


But that should be another threat in the off topic section I guess.

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I wonder how you handle equalizing hitches with surge brakes, or don't you use them in europe? The systems used in the US (Reese, easy Lift, etc) would seem to cause problems with a surge brake system. It seems to me that even a friction sway link would cause problems.

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I wonder how you handle equalizing hitches with surge brakes, or don't you use them in europe? The systems used in the US (Reese, easy Lift, etc) would seem to cause problems with a surge brake system. It seems to me that even a friction sway link would cause problems.

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Jim,

equalizing hitches are unknown and not necessary as normal hitch weight are between 110 lbs and 220 lbs. Friction Sway links are also unknown, the anti-sway stuff used overhere looks like the one in my post before. It work by squeezing the coupler against the ball and has 4 friction pads integrated. These pads can be changed when worn out, so thats a cheap and easy way.

Most trailers don´t even have these anti-sway systems!

Another big difference are the towing speeds which are between 49 mph and 62 mph. Normal towing speed is 49 mph and that is pretty safe with the european trailer, which are lighter and have the axles in the middle of the trailer.

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There are adapters available for surge brakes and equalizers hitches. I do not use an equalizer hitch on my boat. I do have surge brakes and they work rather well. No brake controller and easy hook up. Here is a link for an equalizer hitch that can be used with surge brakes. http://rvwholesalers.com/rv-terms/eq...zer-hitch.html There are others it is just the first one I found.

My boat and trailer are about 7500 #'s, dual axle, dual brakes, with standard class V hitch mounted on the van listed below. The boat is 26' long, with trailer total length is about 30 feet. Ball is 2 5/16ths.

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My boat and trailer are about 7500 #'s, dual axle, dual brakes, with standard class V hitch mounted on the van listed below. The boat is 26' long, with trailer total length is about 30 feet. Ball is 2 5/16ths.

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Just curious, what type of brake does your boat trailer use, disc or hydraulic drums?



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I have a very traditional system. 4 wheel hydraulic drum on multi-leaf springs. A 1997 system made by Dico. Dico is now Titan.


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Does every Trailer have a Brake-away switch??


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A break away switch is a fairly straightforward addition to most electric brake systems. It usually requires attaching a small leash (steel cable), control box and additional (small) 12-volt battery to the trailer (generally on the tongue). The lease attaches to a control box on the trailer and the other end goes to the tow vehicle. If the unit becomes detached from the tow vehicle it pulls the leash out of the control box and activates the electric brakes using 12-volt power from the additional small battery. I hope this helps !



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Thanks Henry,

that really helped, so it works like the safety leach on a surge brake...

We now just have to find a technical engeneer at that gives us his ok for the electric brakes on our trailer .


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Does every Trailer have a Brake-away switch?? If not is it possible to put them on every trailer? Bjoern
State laws vary, my trailer has never had a breakaway switch even though it has electric brakes. It seems that trailers that have a weight of under 3000 pounds are not required to have them, at least where the trailer originally was registered, and where it is now. It would be possible to install one on the trailer, though.
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Bjoern & Terry,

Glad to help Bjoern ! Terry you are correct state laws do vary . You two guys may find the following link interesting, I did. Just thought that I would share .

http://www.championtrailers.com/brkart.html



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Thanks for the link, Henry! That was helpfull too...

Maybe a dumb question, but how do you secure your Trailer when parked? Does the electric brake allow anything like a parking brake, which we have on all our surgebrake trailers?

Please don´t laugh to loud, I could hear that.

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Securing a parked trailer with out the towed vehicle is usually done with wheel chocks behind and in front of the wheels.

In an electric brake set up the brakes can only be used if there is electricity (a battery or tow vehicle) available and hooked up to the trailer. This is not very practical when not towing. A block of wood is cheap and easy.

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Thanks for the link, Henry! That was helpfull too...

Maybe a dumb question, but how do you secure your Trailer when parked? Does the electric brake allow anything like a parking brake, which we have on all our surgebrake trailers?

Please don´t laugh to loud, I could hear that.

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Bjoern,



Action is correct – most folks use the block of wood.



However, electric brakes can be purchased that have the “parking brake” feature. These are readily available but not used by many RV manufacturers in the USA. On the electric brake with park, a cable goes to the brakes (just like an auto) and in essence you pull a handle (similar to a cars emergency brake) to set the parking brake. They run just slightly more in price than the electric brake without park. You will see them frequently in the portable equipment market, generators, air compressors, light towers etc…



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We now just have to find a technical engeneer at that gives us his ok for the electric brakes on our trailer .

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You could call:

Boopark B.V.
Lierenstraat 1, 2984 AE Ridderkerk
Phone: 011-31-180-427292 Fax: 011-31-180-431302

They are the European distributor for Dexter axle parts, and they may know an easy way to get it done.

They're just south of Amsterdam.
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