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Old 09-07-2004, 05:23 PM   #1
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surge brakes

do most of the old airstream trailers have surge brakes.
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:25 PM   #2
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I don't think ANY of them had surge brakes. A few had hydraulic brakes.
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Old 09-07-2004, 07:32 PM   #3
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do most of the old airstream trailers have surge brakes.
How old? Anything past the mid 60's,with the exception of some Excella models, had electric drum brakes.
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Old 09-08-2004, 01:52 AM   #4
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I don't think ANY of them had surge brakes. A few had hydraulic brakes.
they may not have orignally, I have seen some on the internet that have had them. but i didnt remember if they were the new ones or if some had just modifyed the one they had. thanks.
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loki.

Airstream has never used "surge brakes."

They have however, used "disc brakes" for a period of time, that was an option. That may be what you are referring to.

The disc brakes were controlled by a brake controller, not "surge."

That brake system had several names, such as, Excella Vac, vacuum over hydraulic, disc brakes, and "the best brake system ever installed on an Airstream trailer."

We will in short order, have a retro fit disc brake kit, for those that want to do away with the "electric brakes".

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Airstream has never used "surge brakes."

They have however, used "disc brakes" for a period of time, that was an option. That may be what you are referring to.

The disc brakes were controlled by a brake controller, not "surge."

That brake system had several names, such as, Excella Vac, vacuum over hydraulic, disc brakes, and "the best brake system ever installed on an Airstream trailer."

We will in short order, have a retro fit disc brake kit, for those that want to do away with the "electric brakes".

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Andy: What will operate the disk brake system? I'll definately be interested when you have that kit available.
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The kit will include the rotors, the calipers, steel tubing, and the actuator, along with basic instructions.

The system will operator from most any "good" controller, that has a pendulum.

The system will apply maximum trailer brakes in less than eight tenths of a second.

Each axle, will have a stopping power of 6000 pounds.

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Old 09-08-2004, 01:29 PM   #8
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What about the others?

Dear Andy,

What about the other braking systems? I have a Brakesmart controller that I'd like to keep...

I assume that the actuation of the caliper is through a hydraulic or vacuum pressure with a trailer-based reservior? (knowing what assuming does). What about the approximate cost for a tandem axle system--I'd like to resto my Excella back to disc brakes...TIA.
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I understand that Europe does not allow electric brakes. I believe they use surge brakes for their trailers. I will learn more soon... in two weeks I leave for Germany and Austria. I will be staying with my exchange student's parents for a week, and they have a travel trailer (SOB, sorry).
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I understand that Europe does not allow electric brakes. I believe they use surge brakes for their trailers. I will learn more soon... in two weeks I leave for Germany and Austria. I will be staying with my exchange student's parents for a week, and they have a travel trailer (SOB, sorry).
prehaps that is what i saw a picture of.
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Each owner will have to chose whatever controller they want to use.

We will test a couple of them with the system, and therefore stay with those.

Should someone chose to use a $40.00 controller, that will certainly be their option, but if the Disc Brake system falls short of expectations, then the problem will be theirs.

The manufacturer says that the actuator will operate with any good quality inertia-based in-cab controller.

The new system does not require any vacuum source. It can be used with any type tow vehicle.

It is powered by a 6 piston two stage pump, that generates up to 1400 psi.

The calipers indeed are powered by an actuator that can be mounted on the A-frame, or inside the trailer in a cabinet or under a lounge, since it is small and light weight.

Our web site, at a later date, will have complete details as well as pricing.

Costs at this time, have not been established.

The beauty of this system is that we will have kits for single axle, tandem axle as well as the tri-axle trailers.

They can also be installed on pre-Henschen axle equipped trailers as well.

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We were at Jackson Center in August when their disc-brake test trailer was being photographed for dealer retro-fit instructions. Looks like a great unit, well engineered & installed. This electro-hydraulic unit was placed inside the curb-side storage space (another beta-test unit was on the tongue), they were using the Prodigy, but said other (specified) controllers (including Braksmart) would work. This is supposed to be available in the near future on production models, not sure which or when.

This is something I'll be looking at for an upgrade, cost dependant. I would have ordered discs if they were available in the '04 line! ...or maybe trade-in for a new...
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