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05-23-2010, 09:06 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Prodigy operation survey
Do people use the power knob or the boost level control to change between city and highway driving?
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05-23-2010, 09:12 AM
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Contributing Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Austin (Hays County)
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Seldom touch it
I never touch the settings on mine, but I have disc brakes. My Prodigy was set up at Weatherford when the discs were installed. I adjusted it about 50 miles later and haven't changed it since.
When I had electric brakes, I had to ease it off when I picked up the trailer after sitting for a while and the drums were rusty. After I got out on the highway, I would return the wheel to the previous setting. I never changed the setting from town to country.
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05-23-2010, 09:24 AM
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2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
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Santa Rosa Beach
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We have two tow vehicles for Lucy. One has a Prodigy and the other has a P3. I do not make any changes between city and highway driving on either.
Long time towing experience has shown me that as the brake pads wear, I must in crease the power setting on the controller to get a good solid stop.
I use the manual brake lever on the controller often when slowing and stopping. This allows me to get a good feel as to how Lucy's brakes are doing.
Brian
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05-23-2010, 09:48 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
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If the controller was set up correctly there is no reason to ever touch it. Any adjustment you do on the fly will clearly violate the correct setting and result in over or under braking conditions.
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05-23-2010, 09:55 AM
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Vintage Kin Owner
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We don't adjust ours either. We use the manual lever for the first few stops to scrub any build up from the braking surfaces that may have occurred during extended periods of non use. I also use the manual lever to check trailer brake response prior to any major descent's.
Kevin
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05-23-2010, 11:20 AM
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Rivet Master
Corpus Christi
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For low speeds, I soften up the Prodigy using the dial. For high speeds, I dial in a little more braking. The Prodigy is one of the smoothest operating and most "real world" usable units I've ever owned.
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05-23-2010, 11:36 AM
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Rivet Master
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Great tips one and all
Please bare with my confusion. If I left my old POS controller on one setting, the brakes would lock up in city traffic or not be enough for
highway driving. I am thinking that my new Prodigy contoller has no way of knowing
how fast I am going and therefor knowing how to adjust. It must be
the whole inertia thing.
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05-23-2010, 11:48 AM
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Islay - 63 O.
1963 26' Overlander
Montreal
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never change the set up myself...
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05-23-2010, 01:27 PM
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Rivet Master
Corpus Christi
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I'm not sure if Dave's question was for me, nonetheless, in slower city traffic I rotate the dial to reduce the intensity of the braking reaction, giving it less herky jerky. The intense reaction is un-noticable at highway speeds so, I increase the braking reaction with the dial.
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05-23-2010, 02:06 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
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Since it's mounted at the bottom of the dash to the right of the steering wheel, it does not lend itself to adjusting. I set it when I got it and never have changed it. A little grabby in city traffic sometimes, but leaving a lot of space in front of me and stopping slowly solves all things except that little car that likes to pull right in front of me. That's when I use the molecular disrupter and the car and driver disappear into another dimension.
Gene
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05-23-2010, 06:23 PM
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Same answer
Kevin245 uses his just like I use mine. First to get the rust off the brake drums, then on a downhill.
Randy
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05-23-2010, 06:28 PM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Thompson
I'm not sure if Dave's question was for me, nonetheless, in slower city traffic I rotate the dial to reduce the intensity of the braking reaction, giving it less herky jerky. The intense reaction is un-noticable at highway speeds so, I increase the braking reaction with the dial.
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I handle mine the same way Bob does. In addition, I use the reverse over ride or whatever they call it, when backing. I also use the boost feature on steep down hills.
Regards,
Ken
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05-23-2010, 08:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 25' Safari
1977 20' Argosy 20
northern valley
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when all else fails....
we're a really strong believer in the practice of
"when all else fails (and hopefully not your brakes !! ) read the instructions !!!"
presuming that you have correctly made the initial tests and adjustments, brake controllers may not need to be adjusted every time you climb behind the wheel, but they certainly should be tested almost any time you going to use it.
and there's no good substitute for mechanically adjusting a set of (drum) brakes, either.
please, put these items on your "pre-flight" checklist??
and travel safely.....
best,
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05-23-2010, 09:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
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Hi, if your brakes are locking up in town, they either got too hot or your controller is set too high. Warm up your brakes and slowly increase the setting until you can manually lock up your brakes at 25 MPH. Then turn it down, just enough to not lock up at 25 MPH when manually activated. This is where they should be set.
I turned my down, once, while driving on ice; I felt the trailer skid before my tow vehicle skidded. [actually, my co-pilot turned it down for me while I was driving] Other than that I leave mine as set after the skid test.
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05-24-2010, 02:19 AM
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Rivet Master
2020 30' Classic
Derwood
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I have disc brakes - find boast ONE setting is great and just got done driving over 2,000 miles through rain, mountains (currently in the Rockies in Steamboat Springs) - the P3 is just Great!
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05-24-2010, 05:41 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1986 25' Sovereign
Gainesville
, Georgia
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I operate mine as follows:
1. Under "normal" highway conditions I use NO boost.
2. Under "normal" city conditions I use NO boost, but will adjust the bias on the wheel to avoid brake lockup.
3. I have found that mountain driving, particularly descent, requires b1 or b2 for me to feel comfy.
Enjoy!!
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06-11-2010, 01:03 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1970 27' Overlander
Sumner
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I change the settings from light in town to heavier on the freeway, I like to feel the trailer pull me a bit under braking, that way I know it is working.....
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08-31-2013, 07:34 PM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
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Question for you all. A buddy has one of these for sale and I'm ready to upgrade from my "no name" controller mostly because I can't seem to adjust the dern thing. It either grabs too much or produces no braking at all. There doesn't seem to be a sweet-spot. Bottom line is it's time to get a "real" controller.
Question is this. Do you leave the controller plugged into the pigtail under the dash of the tow vehicle all the time, even when not towing? I'm just wondering if that reduces the life of the controller if it's "always on"?
The follow up question for those of you that remove the pigtail when not towing, do you have to set up the controller once it's energized for the next tow? I'm assuming here that the mechanical wheel on the side of the controller keeps the settings between trips, even when not energized.
As always, thanks for your experience and opinions.
Jim
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08-31-2013, 07:54 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1989 32' Excella
Limestone
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2009
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I use a Prodigy P2 and leave the pigtail plugged in all the time, 6 years so far. When the trailer is not connected the controller goes in a low current draw mode. As soon as the trailer umbilical is connected, the controller wakes up displaying the "c" to show it is connected and ready to provide current for the trailer brakes. Hope this helps.
Steve
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08-31-2013, 10:48 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim & Susan
Question is this. Do you leave the controller plugged into the pigtail under the dash of the tow vehicle all the time, even when not towing? I'm just wondering if that reduces the life of the controller if it's "always on"?
As always, thanks for your experience and opinions.
Jim
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Hi, I upgraded from a Tekonsha Voyager to the Tekonsha P-3 several years ago. I Have mine permanently mounted in my center consul and never remove or disconnect it.
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