Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 06-28-2015, 04:27 PM   #1
1 Rivet Member
 
2005 30' Classic
Biloxi , Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 17
EOH brake lock-up

I had EOH disc brakes and Genesis controller installed at Airstream Factory 22 months ago. Recently, local Airstream dealer replaced a caliper on curbside rear wheel.
Now brakes are locking up on minimum settings with the Genesis controller. I mean I barely touch the brake pedal and the trailer brakes lock up with no delay.
Is this likely air in the system?, a controller problem?
Any suggestions on how best to approach this problem will be greatly appreciated. Scheduled to begin journey from Mississippi to West Coast in about 8 days.
__________________

__________________
Gavin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 04:52 PM   #2
Rivet Master
 
Pahaska's Avatar
 
2014 Interstate Ext. Coach
Hays County , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 5,822
Images: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin View Post
I had EOH disc brakes and Genesis controller installed at Airstream Factory 22 months ago. Recently, local Airstream dealer replaced a caliper on curbside rear wheel.
Now brakes are locking up on minimum settings with the Genesis controller. I mean I barely touch the brake pedal and the trailer brakes lock up with no delay.
Is this likely air in the system?, a controller problem?
Any suggestions on how best to approach this problem will be greatly appreciated. Scheduled to begin journey from Mississippi to West Coast in about 8 days.
Air is the lines causes a delay in the brakes coming on, not an immediate lockup. It takes time for the pump to compress the trapped air. I had the delay problem when I replaced the pump and it took several successive bleedings to get quick brake action again.

I would pull the affected wheel and check the caliper and shoes. See what happens when the brakes are applied.
__________________

__________________
John W. Irwin
2014.5 Touring Coach, "Sabre-Dog IV"
WBCCI #9632
Pahaska is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 05:25 PM   #3
Slide Out Society #001
 
GCinSC2's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere , South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,053
Gavin,

Any chance just for grins that you can try another TV just as a test?

OK, here's a long repeat long shot. Dealer just replaced a caliper, they had to bleed some if not all of the brake system.

Is it possible, just possible that now the brakes are correctly bled and this is your new normal?

If I'm way out on limb, your old brakes had a subtle air bubble induced delay. Did you have any delay prior to caliper R&R?

I know nothing about your controller, is it EOH rated?
__________________
S/OS #001
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9L 6 Speed
16" Michelins, Hi Spec Wheels, Max Brake, Carslile Actuator, Equal-i-zer, Dill TPMS. Campfire cook.
GCinSC2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 10:35 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
J. Morgan's Avatar

 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton , Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,046
Images: 11
My guess might be that they turned the controller inertia switch to max to bleed the brakes.. And left it that way.
__________________
The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......

J. Morgan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-28-2015, 10:38 PM   #5
Rivet Master
 
J. Morgan's Avatar

 
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton , Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,046
Images: 11
If it is not the inertia setting, the issue is 90% + a controller issue.
__________________
The fact that I am opinionated does not presuppose that I am wrong......

J. Morgan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2015, 07:24 AM   #6
Rivet Master
 
SteveH's Avatar
 
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense , Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,311
We recently returned from a 7400+ mile trip, and while on the trip I learned my brake controller (Tekonsha P3) is probably not the best in the world for these electric over hydraulic brakes.

I experienced less the stellar performance when stopping going up a hill, or grade, but while going down a grade, the trailer brakes will tend to throw you thru the windshield.

This tells me that maybe I don't have the controller mounted at the optimum angle.

Reluctantly I have come to accept the fact that a certain amount of delay cannot be eliminated.
__________________
Regards,
Steve
SteveH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2015, 10:32 AM   #7
1 Rivet Member
 
2005 30' Classic
Biloxi , Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 17
Disc Brake Lock-up problem

Problem with lock-up resolved this morning. It was brake controller. A new controller installed.
Thanks for input and suggestions from several people on this thread.
__________________
Gavin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-2015, 11:19 AM   #8
Slide Out Society #001
 
GCinSC2's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere , South Carolina
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,053
Disc brake discussion

Gavin,

Glad you found it and thanks for recording the conclusion.

What controller did you install? How's it working?

Gary
__________________
S/OS #001
2005 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9L 6 Speed
16" Michelins, Hi Spec Wheels, Max Brake, Carslile Actuator, Equal-i-zer, Dill TPMS. Campfire cook.
GCinSC2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2015, 04:03 PM   #9
1 Rivet Member
 
2005 30' Classic
Biloxi , Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 17
EOH Brake Lock-up

The local airstream dealer had a Tekonsha Prodgy 2 in stock. It is a new design of the product and designed to handle EOH, as well as electric brakes. It is working fine. Haven't had any up or down grades (South Mississippi) to test that aspect of performance. Heading to West Coast next week, so will find out.
__________________

__________________
Gavin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Updated keyless entry lock BAUER LOCK sc17842 Doors & Locks 6 03-22-2016 10:53 PM
Door Lock Loose interior Lock Pin.. Bootsinister Doors & Locks 12 10-08-2012 11:19 AM
BRAKE-RITE II SD or BRAKE-RITE EHB Dwight Brakes & Brake Controllers 8 01-30-2012 07:06 PM
Ford or Chevy OEM Brake Controllers with Elec-Hyd brake equipped Airstreams? JFScheck Tow Vehicles 30 11-11-2011 12:29 AM
New F150 '09 brake controller vs. Prodigy brake controller dukester Brakes & Brake Controllers 17 01-20-2009 11:46 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.