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07-07-2008, 10:18 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 18' "Footer"
Carbondale
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 26
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Do I need brakes?
Hi there,
Here's a good or silly question, Do I need brakes for my 59 18-footer? I've heard different opinions, even from mechanics, some say it's too light to need brakes, your tow vehicle can handle it, others say going down those mountain passes you'll need brakes. My tow vehicle is a Toyota FJ Cruiser, a bit more than 5000 lbs.
I want to take it to the nearest trailer service place but it's 45 miles away and 30 miles of that is I-70, I haven't taken her over 40mph yet and am a bit nervous!!!
The one thing I have done is had the bearings re-packed and have had new tires put on...
Any thoughts?
Thanks a lot.
Jeph
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07-07-2008, 10:27 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,719
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Do I need brakes?
Greetings Jeph!
I don't believe that you would regret the safety afforded by electric brakes on your trailer. My suspicion is that your coach will likely weigh about 2,400 pounds or a bit more when outfitted for a trip -- on the border of where state laws may require trailer brakes.
The trailer brakes would be helpful when descending grades as well as combating sway or yaw should it happen -- apply brakes while gently accellerating will usually straighten the combo. You would also be approaching the situation where your coach weighs approximately 50% of what your tow vehicle weighs -- do you really want to rely upon your tow vehicle's brakes to manage that much additional weight?
Good luck with your investigation!
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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07-07-2008, 11:14 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1960 22' Safari
Oceanside
, California
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 62
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I would get some electric brakes working on that trailer. You never know when you need to stop quickly. It's worth the price of parts.
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07-08-2008, 08:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Venice
, California
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,067
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Get brakes.
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'78 Excella 500,"The Silver Pullit". vacuum over hydraulic disc brakes, center bath, rear twin. '67 Travelall 1200 B 4X4 WBCCI 3737
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07-08-2008, 11:01 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jephellis
Hi there,
Here's a good or silly question, Do I need brakes for my 59 18-footer? I've heard different opinions, even from mechanics, some say it's too light to need brakes, your tow vehicle can handle it, others say going down those mountain passes you'll need brakes. My tow vehicle is a Toyota FJ Cruiser, a bit more than 5000 lbs.
I want to take it to the nearest trailer service place but it's 45 miles away and 30 miles of that is I-70, I haven't taken her over 40mph yet and am a bit nervous!!!
The one thing I have done is had the bearings re-packed and have had new tires put on...
Any thoughts?
Thanks a lot.
Jeph
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I would suggest that you find a different group of advisors.
Towing that trailer without brakes is the same thing as you not having brakes on your tow vvehicle.
Did your advisors tell you that you "MUST" have a load equalizing hitch? If they didn't they should have..
Did you replace the grease seals when the bearings were packed? If not, then that is also a must.
If your nervous about towing, then you can relax, "IF" you rig the trailer to the tow vehicle, correctly.
Correctly, in this case, means facts, not opinions.
Andy
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07-08-2008, 02:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Last time I went through Colorado It had a few hills. Brakes come in handy on the down hill side.
Traveling the back roads you will need brakes far more often than traveling on the highway.
Most states have a law that sets the requirement % for a trailer to TV weight ratio that requires brakes on a trailer. That is the point when government gets involved but Good Sense should come into effect before that.
All thing considered get brakes on your trailer
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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07-08-2008, 09:20 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1959 18' "Footer"
Carbondale
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 26
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I love this forum!
Thanks you all!
I have an appointment this Friday to get the brakes hooked up, should be fun for the mechanics with the mess of wiring I inheireted (sp?).
I also plan to have them install sway bars, I'll do everything else myself but the safety thing should be done by professionals eh?
Thanks for the input!!!!
Jeph
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07-09-2008, 10:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1960 22' Safari
in the wilderness
, The great Mojave Desert
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jephellis
Thanks you all!
I have an appointment this Friday to get the brakes hooked up, should be fun for the mechanics with the mess of wiring I inheireted (sp?).
I also plan to have them install sway bars, I'll do everything else myself but the safety thing should be done by professionals eh?
Thanks for the input!!!!
Jeph
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Excellent plan!
Money spent on saftey equipment is always a wise investment.
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CA 4
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