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Old 03-06-2013, 08:36 AM   #57
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Which reminds me of an old saying, that the only real difference between a disaster and an adventure is whether you live to tell a good story about it later.

Here's hoping you have many adventures, and no disasters.
Another old saying added to yours was, "no underwear to clean".

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Old 03-06-2013, 10:39 AM   #58
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I also learned that the best brake to use on steep grades is the engine. My mech. cousin told me to always use the trailer mode on my truck when towing to prevent overheating the transmission. In trailer mode the shift points are adjusted by the computer to increase rpm and prevent the trany. from going into overdrive. .

The owner's manual of most late model (Say in the last 25 years) TV will have instrustions on how to operate the TV when towing. Owner's manuals are very thick for a reason, they contain a lot of information on a very complex piece of machinery. Vehicles that are built after the 80's do more with less than vehicles prior to that. And that is part of the reason the cost is double or triple from 25 years ago.

If you are going to jump in and "run" to the grocery store to pick up some milk, not much instruction is needed. Looking to operate a 7000 + pound total load that is 40 + feet in total length, please get the instructions needed to do this task with out damage or injury. The manuals that came with both the tow vehicle (TV) and the towed load (trailer) were designed to guide the operator in safe operation.

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Old 03-07-2013, 02:17 PM   #59
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I have been towing my 1973 29ft without brakes all over the east coast last couple of years..is it ideal?...no..I would much rather have brakes and plan to install all new stuff soon...I did the entire Blue Ridge Parkway last Fall with no trailer brakes...I pull with an F350 Diesel dually and warped both front rotors coming down into Cherokee at end of the trip... I have been an over the road truck driver my entire life and have always had to drive junk for a living..I have the experience to do stupid stuff like that...I drive decent speed...keep surroundings in focus..but you can't see everything coming...I would suggest you fix your brakes for safety. I am doing a few thousand miles next couple of weeks with no trailer brakes...but plan to repair them before my next trip out....
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Old 03-16-2013, 12:42 PM   #60
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Well they are working this trip....pretty happy about that.....plan on replacing them all very soon....do you sell the hubs as well?
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Well they are working this trip....pretty happy about that.....plan on replacing them all very soon....do you sell the hubs as well?
I would suggest that you look at the complete braking and suspension system.

If the axles are originals, I would suggest that you check them out. Typically torsion axles do not last 40 years.

The following will help you to check them out.

The Dura-Torque Axle

After you check them out, most likely you will have more questions.

So, ask away.

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Old 03-25-2013, 03:29 PM   #62
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headed for new brakes

So we are going to go and drop her off this afternoon at the local RV shop to have them replace the brakes. The guy on the phone kept saying, "How do you know you need new brakes?!?" I told him, that with a trailer built in 69 and tires from 1990, it was probably a good guess! So we will see... I am really hoping that he doesn't say we have to do the axle too. From the RV guy she is headed over to the tire shop for new wheels and tires. Quick question: Do I need to tell him that I need a brake controller, or will he already know that? As you can see, this is not an area I know anything about! We are hoping to stay in budget and to be ready for our first adventure in the next couple of weeks!
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Quick question: Do I need to tell him that I need a brake controller, or will he already know that? As you can see, this is not an area I know anything about!
Even if he knows you need one, ask anyway. There are several models on the market, and you will want to discuss the subject with him to find out which to get.
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:27 PM   #64
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So we are going to go and drop her off this afternoon at the local RV shop to have them replace the brakes. The guy on the phone kept saying, "How do you know you need new brakes?!?" I told him, that with a trailer built in 69 and tires from 1990, it was probably a good guess! So we will see... I am really hoping that he doesn't say we have to do the axle too. From the RV guy she is headed over to the tire shop for new wheels and tires. Quick question: Do I need to tell him that I need a brake controller, or will he already know that? As you can see, this is not an area I know anything about! We are hoping to stay in budget and to be ready for our first adventure in the next couple of weeks!
If he doesn't know torsion axles he may not know what a bad axle is (I've read that some Airstream dealers don't know).

Also if you don't drop off your tow vehicle with your trailer he wont have any way to know you need a brake controller and would most likely assume that you already have one.
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We dropped it off at Augusta RV so hopefully they will know about all types of axles...I will ask more detailed questions about the axle when I hear from them today. Another crazy question for you guys, ford explorers do not come with a brake controller do they? Do you always have to add this on to your tow vehicle? If so, I will take the tow vehicle to him when we are closer to picking it up. Thanks again for your help and advice.
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We dropped it off at Augusta RV so hopefully they will know about all types of axles...I will ask more detailed questions about the axle when I hear from them today. Another crazy question for you guys, ford explorers do not come with a brake controller do they? Do you always have to add this on to your tow vehicle? If so, I will take the tow vehicle to him when we are closer to picking it up. Thanks again for your help and advice.
I don't believe the Explorer has ever had the option of a factory trailer-brake controller, for that vehicle you'll need to add one.

Recent pickup lines have optional or included-with-package integrated trailer brake controllers that don't require any additional hardware for most electric-brake trailers, though some of the early ones didn't work and play well with electric-over-hydraulic systems.
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As far as I know brake controllers are not standard on any (noncommercial) vehicle and only optional on some.

I believe Ford started offering brake controllers as an option in their pickup trucks in 2007 or 2008 and before that no noncommercial vehicles offered factory brake controllers (that I know of), so everyone had to add aftermarket ones.
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Okay, so back to the brakes question. We are going to hold off on the axle for now and put new brakes on. Can someone give me a bit more info on what size, type etc necessary for a 69 caravel?
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Once you pull the wheel you will be able to see. They should be 10 or 12" drums. My 69 ambassador hand 12 " brakes. Buying the whole backing plates is the way to go. Inland RV and Outdoors Mart both carry them. I would guess you would also want to turn the rotors, and get them balanced if possible.
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My Caravel has 10" brakes. If you go ahead and buy a new brake assembly make sure you buy the complete set-up : backing plates w/self adjusting brakes and new drums. Then when you eventually buy a new axle, buy a bare axle and swap your new (newer) brakes onto it. I believe they will interchange. If not I would only put new pads and springs and have your drums turned onto your old set-up.
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