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Old 09-20-2010, 10:59 AM   #15
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I installed the Kodiak disk brakes and the Actibrake actuator on my 1976 A/S a little over 2 years ago and I have not had any problems, yet. Is the Actibarke failure more frequest with the newer factory installed Airstreams or does the failure occur in the retro fit installations as well. Thanks

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the leak/failure issue isn't a function of WHO did the install.

coverage under the recall is apparently NOT available to diy'ers...

the USEFUL info is in this thread

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f439...ics-67620.html

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Old 09-20-2010, 03:34 PM   #16
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Don.

This is a photo of the original Actibrake, that's OK.

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That is not the unit I have so I am at risk.

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Old 09-20-2010, 04:28 PM   #17
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That is not the unit I have so I am at risk.

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Unfortunately.

But, not all the units are failing, just a small percentage,best we can find out.

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Old 09-21-2010, 10:17 AM   #18
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If you can have a dealer do the "Recall" it could save you big $$.
There is a problem with the brake fluid getting on the electronics. This causes the actuator to fail.
BTW I went with the Carlisle unit. It is supposed to work with my 2006 F-250 with Tow Command.
My ActiBrake unit is not covered under the recall, so your statement above does not apply. Mine is the one in the picture posted by Andy. My unit failed due to a motor control board failure, not due to a hydraulic fluid leak.

While one cannot reliablely predict failures of the sort that I experienced, I believe that, if I currently owned an AS with a working Actibrake unit, I would replace the ActiBrake unit with another manufacturer's unit. This statement is based on ActiBrake no longer being in business.
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:22 PM   #19
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Actibrake failure on the road!

Yes, our Actibrake unit failed on an outing to the Grand Canyon but luckily it happen while the A/S was parked. The pump was full on when I returned to camp after setting on the site for three days. This was a DIY install, so I was fulling aware of the brake sound, and proceeded to scramble to shut it down. The pigtail was not engaged, the brake away switch was in tack, and now I had to shut it down before it started a fire. The pump was very hot, so I pulled the DC power cord fuse, no good. I pulled the A/C power, no good. The batteries were next, but I couldn't find the keys in the panic, so I when for the DC buss wiring under the sofa and disconnected the ground lead for the unit. Not fun, cuse it's behind the sofa, after you pull out the drawer under it and get to the wire run behind it. No breaker had tripped on overload, it was just full on and failed internally.

Now, I have a 10K trailer, without brakes, up the creek at 7,250 ft, and 100 miles from an RV repair station. Well, you call Good Sam, schedule a tow and wait to see what happens. I checked around after calling Flagstaff RV and found that I could only use the Dexter 1600 unit to replace the Actibrakey that I installed in the forward tool box. Andy sold me the bad unit and his replacement unit was too big for my application, but a lot less expensive. (10 lbs in a 5 lb box)

I had to stay the weekend before they could get me in, but we over nighted the Dexter unit and installed it the next day. Flagstaff RV was very good to us, unlocked the trailer after a lock out, and then helped again after we locked the truck after hooking up the repaired A/S. ???? We left in the PM and drove in the dark to make a schedule for our next stop, only to find out they were hit with a bad storm the next day, that could have stopped us permanently if we had not left town.
(Trip from Hell?) Brakes failed and the storm missed us, strike two.

Well, the Dexter is stopping us fine and we're only wounded in the pocket book. The Actibrakey lasted about 2 1/2 years but only ran 2-3 hours in it's life cycle, but all's well that ends well.

So, if you own one of those Actibrakey Plastic Bast-rds, I suggest, you find a hole for it and get a replacement that will get you home in one piece. If my unit had failed on the road, full on, I might not be here to tell this story. And no fault to Andy, he only sold them but I'm sorry that Actibrake couldn't have send out notices to registered owners of these BAD Brakes, so owners could protect themselves from premature failures. Maybe they were suppose to and I didn't get the word.???? What say Andy??
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So, if you own one of those Actibrakey Plastic Bast-rds, I suggest, you find a hole for it and get a replacement that will get you home in one piece. If my unit had failed on the road, full on, I might not be here to tell this story. And no fault to Andy, he only sold them but I'm sorry that Actibrake couldn't have send out notices to registered owners of these BAD Brakes, so owners could protect themselves from premature failures. Maybe they were suppose to and I didn't get the word.???? What say Andy??
We first heard of Actibrake going out of business, when we called them to place another order.

They were very good on warranty coverage, at least until they closed their doors.

Since that is history, that none of us can change, we must move on.

Feedback to us, says that the Carlisle is a better actuator, and has less problems than the Dexter.

Anyone wish to chime in with current info?

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I have a Dexter and it has worked without issue sinceI installed it. It replaced my existing vacuum system that I removed from our '77. I had to have a brake line made to connect it to my existing system.
But it has a fast response time and has given me zero problems. One funny story - I had someone tell me that my water pump was running cause they could hear the pump running as we pulled into a gas station to fill up. I showed him that it was my actuator and he thought that was pretty cool. It has an aluminum reservoir...
At the time I was researching this I looked at practically every actuator on the market, the Dexter was my choice - but yours may be different.
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:53 PM   #22
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Like Buttercup, I replaced my vacuum unit on my 77 but with a Carlisle. So far so good! (knock on wood)
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:13 PM   #23
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Well here is another failure for you. We pulled the trailer from the storage unit to our house on Friday and this afternoon when I go outside, I hear the pump running. I grab a 1/4" socket and undo the plug on the pump unit.

The brakes were install by Roger Williams Airstream back in 2007. I noticed the Actibrake and Kodiak companies have the same address in Ft. Worth. Are they business partners or does anyone know?

Which unit and which brand should I use? I have the shorter shoebox unit in my front box behind the LP bottles.
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Well here is another failure for you. We pulled the trailer from the storage unit to our house on Friday and this afternoon when I go outside, I hear the pump running. I grab a 1/4" socket and undo the plug on the pump unit.

The brakes were install by Roger Williams Airstream back in 2007. I noticed the Actibrake and Kodiak companies have the same address in Ft. Worth. Are they business partners or does anyone know?

Which unit and which brand should I use? I have the shorter shoebox unit in my front box behind the LP bottles.
Carlisle seems to be choice of most owners, because of simplicity, design, and reliability.

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Old 02-11-2012, 04:15 PM   #25
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The OEM Actibrake went belly up- shortly after J/C 'checked' it out, and sent me on my way...

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One more Actibrake failure

I know this is an old thread.

I had my Actibrake installed years ago at Roger Williams. It has worked OK for about 7 years.

After a trouble-free 180-mile round trip to San Antonio last week, I left the truck and trailer on the street in front of the house for 2 hours. When I started up to go to the storage yard, The brakes were on and I could hardly move the trailer.

I stopped and cycled the brakes a few times and things seemed to clear up for the 10-mile trip to storage. I monitored the power I needed carefully and the trailer seemed to be rolling at least freely. When I arrived there, the hubs were really hot and I deduced indicated the brakes were dragging at least partially. I trashed the Actibrake unit.

I bought a Dexter 1600 and I have it partially installed in the box behind the propane tanks. I need to get a longer brake hose tomorrow to finish the installation.

We go on vacation shortly and I'm glad this happened here at home and not on the road somewhere.
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I know this is an old thread.

I had my Actibrake installed years ago at Roger Williams. It has worked OK for about 7 years.

After a trouble-free 180-mile round trip to San Antonio last week, I left the truck and trailer on the street in front of the house for 2 hours. When I started up to go to the storage yard, The brakes were on and I could hardly move the trailer.

I stopped and cycled the brakes a few times and things seemed to clear up for the 10-mile trip to storage. I monitored the power I needed carefully and the trailer seemed to be rolling at least freely. When I arrived there, the hubs were really hot and I deduced indicated the brakes were dragging at least partially. I trashed the Actibrake unit.

I bought a Dexter 1600 and I have it partially installed in the box behind the propane tanks. I need to get a longer brake hose tomorrow to finish the installation.

We go on vacation shortly and I'm glad this happened here at home and not on the road somewhere.
Thanks for keeping us informed. I have the Actibrake too and this is the kind of thing that keeps me awake at night. The Actibrake on our trailer was installed 7 - 10 years ago. Airstream did the brake install at Jackson Center. I asked them to put the pump/reservoir in the compartment behind the propane tanks but they ignored my request and put the unit in the outside storage locker under my twin bed - go figure.

After you've finished the conversion I'd like to hear your comments about any problems you encountered, ease of wiring, etc. Tell us where you purchased the Dexter too.
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For some reason the AS dealer when they installed my Dexter put what looks like a trailer brake magnet on the blue line of the Dexter. I take that everyone posting in this thread doesn't have such a thing?

Should I disconnect it and see what happens?

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