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Old 11-17-2011, 03:09 PM   #15
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Well I have had my share of electrical brake problems. I have had a heck of a time getting them balanced so one wheel does not lock way before the others. I just about ruined one new tire this way already.

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Old 11-17-2011, 04:02 PM   #16
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Yeah I am thinking that as well now that I have read about the problems with the disk systems. Now if I were towing with one of them thar VW things disk brakes might be a better option.

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A properly designed and installed hydraulic disc brake system is far superior to an electric drum brake system.

If you research the two types of systems, you will find that hydraulic disc brakes are far superior in terms of stopping ability and maintenance issues, as compared to electric drum brakes.

Essentially all of the problems associated with hydraulic disc brakes on Air Stream trailers can be traced to problems with the Actibrake hydraulic actuators, and design faults in how Airstream installed the units (badly kinked brake hoses).
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:59 PM   #17
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Well at this point disk brakes are not in the budget but maybe someday. If I towed a lot in the mountains I would think disk brakes would be a good idea. Towing on flat ground at moderate speeds I am not sure it is worth the expense. I make a couple long trips to Florida from North Alabama at this point and probably some sort trips to camp around here. We may go to NC this summer in persuit of places without high heat and high humidity. When it is cold we vacation south. When it is hot we go to the mountains where it is cool. You guys that camp in the dessert in the summer are nuts.

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Old 11-17-2011, 11:13 PM   #18
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I wouldn't try to convert drum to disk brakes. I went disk brakes because I went with new axles. I am going to install the Titan brake actuator.
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Old 11-18-2011, 08:26 AM   #19
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I wouldn't try to convert drum to disk brakes. I went disk brakes because I went with new axles. I am going to install the Titan brake actuator.
What is the response time, and maximum pressure compared to the others?

I did not see that listed.

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Old 11-18-2011, 09:52 AM   #20
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What is the response time, and maximum pressure compared to the others?

I did not see that listed.

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Hi Andy I have it written down somewhere. Have to get back to you on it. Wierd that its not in the tec specs though...
What are the specs for the others you have listed? The nice thing about the Titan is the brain is seperate from the rest of the unit. From what I hear that is what goes bad.
Thanks for your imput.
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:15 PM   #21
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Disc brakes are over rated according to Chevy. They don't even put them on all four wheels on the Silverado 1500. <ducking for cover>
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Old 11-20-2011, 09:17 AM   #22
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newroswell,

Your signature quote is a gem, thanks for the grin.

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Old 11-20-2011, 10:52 AM   #23
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thread's making me consider disc conversion...

just about to take bring home my 03 28ft classic. I live in the Laurel mountains in Pa. and my trips will always involve some pretty good decents. Who provides complete disc brake upgrade kits. etrailer has a bunch of kits, but i can't tell which will work. I know they're expensive, but I'd like stainless calipers, i hate rust!
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Old 11-20-2011, 01:29 PM   #24
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fairchance,

Sorry, can't help on the product, but Laurel Highlands, wow beautiful region and yup, I bet if you go disc brakes with a premium controller, you'll appreciate the decision on your hills. Many others here have more years and miles that I with an AS, but I have had my share of brake/hydraulic issues for several unrelated issues, I do like my MaxBrake, it makes sense, tap into your hydraulic system to create a signal via transducer for your controller to communicate with the actuator.

Doesn't Kodiak offer kits? I watched an install video from them a couple of years back.

As you get closer, find the Tech Support Guru from the mfgr, get their name, extension, e-mail, make notes and go over the details until you can recite it backwards and forwards.

Good luck.
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Old 11-20-2011, 02:10 PM   #25
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Kodiak is the brand that I got w/ the axles from Andy; easy to understand directions and good quality parts & hardware. I mounted the brake unit next to the batteries under the (custom) rear dinette seat in the Tin Pickle. Figure on spending a long day underneath the trailer running brake lines & bleeding them - not difficult, just work.

As others have noted, make sure that the brake hoses have sufficient slack under all conditions. Doing a good job of bleeding the brakes is very important to reduce brake delay - persistence here will pay off.

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2Air made some comments about stainless components a couple of years back. I'd search for that older thread.
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:45 PM   #27
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So how do these pumps work? Is it a rotary hydraulic pump or something more crude? Maybe a power steering pump driven by some sort of electric motor and a porportioning valve?

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http://www.trailerpartsdepot.com/mmn.../actibrake.pdf



http://www.expediter.com/pdf%20folde...folder/L16.pdf

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