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Old 06-07-2013, 02:46 PM   #1
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Brake wires cut on new Classic

I bought a very lightly used 31' Classic and discovered that the brake wires on the front axle had been cut. They were not broken or damaged. The wires had a clean cut and the wires that should have supplied power to the brakes were taped over to prevent shorting out. The previous owner says he didn't know who might have cut them, or why.

I reattached the wires, and the brakes work fine.

Does anyone have any idea why on earth someone would want to cut the braking power in half?
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Old 06-07-2013, 04:52 PM   #2
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I know I have repaired wire breaks several times on mine. The breaks looked clean but I don't think anyone actually cut them. I don't have a good explanation though.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:19 AM   #3
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I know I have repaired wire breaks several times on mine. The breaks looked clean but I don't think anyone actually cut them. I don't have a good explanation though.
Thanks for the reply.

This trailer was towed from Jackson Center to Ontario then to Florida before I purchased it. And, the wires were taped over, so no chance this was an accident.

For what it's worth, the TV being used was a mini-SUV. My thoughts are that whoever set up the hitch system, cut the wires to prevent wheel lock-up to keep the trailer from fishtailing causing the TV to lose control?

That is the only scenario I can think of.
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If they were cut, I would think it more likely that some spiteful person did in retaliation for some apparent offense. Sad to actually say that.

There's no common sense reason to intentionally cut the wires for better towing or handling.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:00 AM   #5
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I don't think a spiteful person would tape over the wire ends.

My guess is someone who had no idea how to use an electric brake controller was experiencing trailer wheel lock up and chose to solve the problem in their own dysfunctional, "there, that will never happen again!" way.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:03 AM   #6
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Since they were cut and taped I assume the person that did it had some knowledge of electric and maybe the brakes. Now that said why would they do it?

If there was a problem with the TV brake controller be current limited that would have produced a situation where not enough current was getting to all 4 brakes to make any effective stopping power. By cutting the wire and reducing the brakes to 2 that current applied to those 2 brakes would be doubled and thus giving greater stopping power. Braking application is not a linear function of current applied.

Now that you have reattached the wires I would jack up each side and while someone can manually apply the brakes spin each wheel and have them hit the manual control full on. The wheel should slam to a stop.
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Old 06-08-2013, 10:26 AM   #7
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I wouldn't want to tow a big heavy trailer like the Airstream with no brakes at all. That sounds silly.

My tandem car trailer only has brakes on the rear axle. I like that a lot, even when towing a car on it. I have better control of the trailer than my Haulmark enclosed trailer that has brakes on both axles. With that said, I have no intention of cutting the brake wires to the front axle on the Haulmark. I don't use anti sway on either trailer and don't ever intend to. The only sway I've ever gotten is on ice and a tap on the trailer brake straightens the trailer right up.
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I have noticed that at slow speed 'panic' stops (city driving and someone pulls out in front) will lock all four and burn a little rubber. But, for real panic stops at higher speeds I get great braking control. TV is Ford F250 with integral controller. I leave the control set at 9.5
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Old 06-08-2013, 03:57 PM   #9
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I have noticed that at slow speed 'panic' stops (city driving and someone pulls out in front) will lock all four and burn a little rubber. But, for real panic stops at higher speeds I get great braking control. TV is Ford F250 with integral controller. I leave the control set at 9.5
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Drive at 25 on a paved road and put full power via the manual to the brakes.

If they lock back off a bit and try again. Do this till they do not lock.

If they don't lock increase the power till they do and then back off to the last set point.

Trailer brakes should never lock while towing. Locked trailer brakes will cause the trailer to come around and kiss you where do don't want to be kissed.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:01 PM   #10
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Mine appeared cut when in fact they broke inside the "crimp" connectors. Both WIRES!

They are now soldered and properly heat shrinked.

I wonder it the AS "kwality" team missed that inspection point? Nah, nevuh..
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:37 PM   #11
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While I was in Florida this winter I found the wires to one brake were clean cut about an inch from where they come through the backing plate.

I suspect rodents as several people in the forest service campgrounds had problems with critters under the hood.

The only reason I found it is I will check hub temps with an infrared thermometer from time to time and this wheel was cooler than the rest

I have had breaks caused by corrosion in the past but this cut looked like it had been done with a cutter.
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Old 06-08-2013, 09:33 PM   #12
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Pack rats will cut through wires and it looks like it was done with a good set of wire cutters, but they don't tape the ends.

Corrosion of the wire connections is very common after a few years and they break off at the crimp, especially if you live in an area which uses salt on the roads in the winter, or a coastal area.

I prefer either a silicone filled crimp connection or solder and shrink wrap. They also make silicone filled wire nuts which remain well sealed. The silicone is not stuff which hardens. You can find them at Home Depot and many full line hardware stores.
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Old 06-09-2013, 04:53 AM   #13
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I don't think a spiteful person would tape over the wire ends.
Somehow, I missed the "taped over" part.
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Old 06-12-2013, 10:40 AM   #14
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My guess is some one wanted only rear axle breaking and cut the front. However if the fronts were connected with wire nuts then a disconnection at that point would make more sense.

Some only want rear axle breaking.

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My best guess is that someone was trying to troubleshoot an intermittent electrical problem in the brakes and disconnected the wires to try to isolate the problem. Then, due to either apathy or forgetfulness, they didn't connect them again.
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