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06-28-2011, 03:57 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1971 25' Tradewind
Scio
, New York
Join Date: May 2011
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Brake Shoes - Where to buy?
I have a 1971 Tradewind and it needs shoes. Magnets are good, springs are good, everything else is fine.
Do I have to buy the whole assembly? or is there somewhere I can just buy the shoes? Also - if I DO in fact need to buy the whole assembly, where do I buy replacement shoes for that should I ever need them?
1971 25' Tradewind
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06-28-2011, 05:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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You can buy just the shoes but that cost and the time to change them you are better off buying the complete assembly. Probably like $32.00 to $49.00 and 4 bolts and 2 wire nuts compared to a 15 mins. per set of shoes.
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06-28-2011, 05:18 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2000 23' Safari
Vero Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2010
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I agree with HowieE. The difference in cost is minimal and with the new plates you get new springs, new magnets, etc.
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06-28-2011, 05:22 AM
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To directly answer your question, you can get just new shoes from nearly any RV place or trailer repair shop. Like everybody else here so far, I'd really lean toward replacing the entire 40 year old assemblies.
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06-28-2011, 05:46 AM
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Vintage Kin Owner
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Ditto on replacing the entire backing plate assembly. All new components, not much more cost, and and peace of mind.
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06-28-2011, 06:26 AM
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Be Calm, Have a Cupcake
Vintage Kin Owner
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 223
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I bought new brake shoes at my local RV Parts store, but they told me they were out of brake socks at the time. I was advised that without proper brake socks, the brake feet could get dirty and smelly right away.
What should I do?
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06-28-2011, 07:47 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ckbailey97
I have a 1971 Tradewind and it needs shoes. Magnets are good, springs are good, everything else is fine.
Do I have to buy the whole assembly? or is there somewhere I can just buy the shoes? Also - if I DO in fact need to buy the whole assembly, where do I buy replacement shoes for that should I ever need them?
1971 25' Tradewind
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Your Airstream has 12 inch brakes.
12 inch brake backing plates are mounted with 5 bolts.
10 inch brake backing plates are mounted with 4 bolts.
Andy
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06-28-2011, 08:17 AM
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Rivet Master
1975 29' Ambassador
Reno
, Nevada
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,351
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one of the most cost effective places I've found for backing plates is eastern marine -especially if you wait for one of their sales. Standard 12x2 plates run about $40 and include the shoes, magnets, springs -
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06-28-2011, 08:28 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2003 30' Classic
mount joy
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 28
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has any one tried self adjusting backing plates, if so is there any problems with them?
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06-28-2011, 08:38 AM
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Rivet Idiot
1999 34' Excella
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On The Lake
, Georgia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by krlajwvater
has any one tried self adjusting backing plates, if so is there any problems with them?
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I have had the self adjusting for about 18 months now and about 5,000 miles. I did the backing plates.
No problems.
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06-28-2011, 08:50 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by krlajwvater
has any one tried self adjusting backing plates, if so is there any problems with them?
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So far, no reported problems, other than they cost a little more.
Andy
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06-28-2011, 08:55 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bryanl
one of the most cost effective places I've found for backing plates is eastern marine -especially if you wait for one of their sales. Standard 12x2 plates run about $40 and include the shoes, magnets, springs -
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There are different versions of backing plates.
As an example, 2 of the more popular 12 inch backing plates have different stopping power ratings.
One is 5200 pounds per axle and the other is 6000 pounds per axle.
Extra stopping power can save the day should the tow vehicle brakes fail. It does happen.
Also, keep in mind that all electric brake ratings assume that the brakes are "perfectly" adjusted, and that the shoes are not glazed.
As electric brakes wear, their stopping power decreases.
Andy
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06-28-2011, 09:15 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2002 30' Classic
East Central
, Alabama
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 68
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I recently purchased complete Dexter 12" x 2" self adjusting brake assemblies from E Trailer.com
Includes back plate, shoes, springs, magnets complete assembly -
Also bought new drums as the drums were worn where the magnets had deeply scoured the armature portion of the drums. They came complete with bearings and seals.
Gives a feeling of comfort knowing all is new.
Curt
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06-28-2011, 09:55 AM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Went the self adjusting route on our '85 Excella. No problems and all seems to be working just fine. Did the complete assembly since I didn't have a history on the maintenance. Easy job. The nuts for the backing plates are a bear to reach. Get a set of ratcheting box wrenches at Sears. You'll be glad you did. But the job is easy and straightforward.
Go for it.
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06-28-2011, 10:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Secguru
I bought new brake shoes at my local RV Parts store, but they told me they were out of brake socks at the time. I was advised that without proper brake socks, the brake feet could get dirty and smelly right away.
What should I do?
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You should launder your existing brake socks frequently, using a quality detergent, until you can find more. If odor continues to be a problem, there are sprays to help control it.
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06-28-2011, 11:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
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OK I have been dealing with brakes for over 55 years and have not yet run across Brake Socks. What are you referring to?
A Picture if possible.
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WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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06-28-2011, 11:52 AM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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HowieE,
I only see them on brake-dancers these days; keep your eyes peeled...
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09-07-2011, 08:36 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1965 26' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Greenville
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 10
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help please,i just removed the drum from my 65 overlander and the front driver side didnt have any part in it and the rear driver side was broken, i want to replace all for sets i have kelsey -Hays now, Am i able to use
12" x 2" NEV-R-ADJUST™ Electric Brake Assy by Dexter, or do i need to replace the back plat and drums also, bought the trailer from a person who told me all was good about 18 months ago have replaced the floor and gutted the inside out completly, so i want to press forward
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09-07-2011, 08:40 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gomez1965
help please,i just removed the drum from my 65 overlander and the front driver side didnt have any part in it and the rear driver side was broken, i want to replace all for sets i have kelsey -Hays now, Am i able to use
12" x 2" NEV-R-ADJUST™ Electric Brake Assy by Dexter, or do i need to replace the back plat and drums also, bought the trailer from a person who told me all was good about 18 months ago have replaced the floor and gutted the inside out completly, so i want to press forward
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Replace the complete backing plates, as some parts of the brakes that you have, are no longer available.
The shoes alone cost almost as much as the complete backing plates.
Andy
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09-21-2011, 05:56 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Are these brake shoes pretty generic? Is there a reason my local Advance Autoparts can't get these things? I need to pull my hubs and see what is going on in there but I don't have time to wait on parts nor do I have the money to just go out and buy new backing plates if I don't need them. I may need new shoes. I am going to replace the axels at some point but I can't do everything all at once in a month's time. I need to get my floor back in. I will have some breathing room after October. My brakes are working to some degree already but they do need to be checked.
Perry
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