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Old 10-03-2010, 02:14 PM   #1
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We picked up our new Ram 2500 Friday. It has the factory brake controler, will it work with my electric over hydraulic brakes?
It is a 2007 Classic 30 ft. with slide out.
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Old 10-03-2010, 02:26 PM   #2
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What does the owners manual for the truck say about the controller and the actuators?

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We picked up our new Ram 2500 Friday. It has the factory brake controler, will it work with my electric over hydraulic brakes?
It is a 2007 Classic 30 ft. with slide out.
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We picked up our new Ram 2500 Friday. It has the factory brake controler, will it work with my electric over hydraulic brakes?...
the owners manual is vague in this truck in regard to e/h brakes.

there is an ONLINE tech document BURIED in the mopar stuff...

barely ONE paragraph and it took hours to find it.

that tech doc sez the ITBC will not work with e/h brakes.
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using an AFTER market controller is tricky now,

because the dealer has to DEprogram the oem one from the onboard computer,

and REprogram the main computer (with the vin #) to accept aftermarket controller on the harness.
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a master tech at the local dealership told me it would work, maybe.

then i showed him the online tech item and he changed his mind...

"nope absolutely won't work"

ultimately as part of the D/3500 test drive i HOOKED up the stream...

and tried the itbc with the e/h disc brakes...

the dodge itbc ((made by continental?)) worked fine.



so the only sure way 2 know is 2 try it.

and don't forget the syn/calibration step outlined in the a/s-dexter info.

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...It is a 2007 Classic 30 ft. with slide out....
another issue hickory...

the oem RECEIVER is not labeled with ANY ratings (with or without w/d)

and the owners manual simply sez it is "class 4" which is vague.

the service shop suggested it is rated to 1000/10,000 with w/d (the basic definition of class 4)

but class 4 includes receivers with greater and lesser ratings.

the HEADz UP point being...

the TONGUE and gvw rating for the 30/slide is OVER 1000/10,000.

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Old 10-03-2010, 04:26 PM   #4
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Excellent post, 2Air. Thanks for the time spent in research, dealer questions and the rest!!!

If the OP is looking for another hitch receiver (if communicating with Ma Mopar on this question is unsatisfactory), then a look at TORKLIFT -- the king of Class V (and above the trucks rating) -- is recommended:

Truck Camper Magazine - TCM EXCLUSIVE: Torklift SuperHitch Magnum and SuperTruss Skid Wheel

Torklift's Original SuperHitch

Of course, a PULLRITE makes this question moot.

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Old 10-03-2010, 05:27 PM   #5
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and don't forget the syn/calibration step outlined in the a/s-dexter info.


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What is the meaning of the above reference? When I recently installed a Dexter 1600 psi E/H actuator, there was no mention of syn/calibration in the installation instructions.
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What is the meaning of the above reference...
installation ≠ setup/sync/calibration

op has an 06 stream and ram, not an 07 stream and ford.

06 streams may have kodiak or dex' calipers (depending on build date) so...

the OP may still have the oem a/s/actibrake/dexter system...

since NOT all of the actuators were recalled (only type 2) ,

and IF recalled, it's not obvious if this has been done OR the actuator changed (no leak, no change)
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2006/07 TRAILER setup/sync/cal/adjustment steps are covered in the a/s owners manual section B.

the truck side 4 the OP is covered in his RAM manual.
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the answer wasn't exactly intended/written for ford or diy actuator installs, it is specific to the op.

it would appear you have a 250 ?

250/350 setup/compatibility is covered at ~pages 256-260 of the SUPERDUTY owners manual.

dexter also provides setup/calibration instructions for the e/h 1600 in the MAIN dex' manual.

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Old 10-03-2010, 11:10 PM   #7
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Side NOTE!

I'm about to buy a 2010 Ram with the factory actuator and I've done some research on theturbodieselregister.com and learned that most folks are not too thrilled with the factory brake controller.

It's works "OK" but from what I've read my plan is to install a Maxbrake as soon as I get 500 miles and ready to tow.

I've had a Maxbrake on my 01 Dodge for a couple years and it's one of those "once you've had it you'll never go back" kind of things...it's too nice of a brake controller to give up.

I love being able to calibrate it and forget it. No matter what I plug in and go...it's always set and stays set...no changing when i'm parking or in heavy traffic or descending a grade...always perfect...I'm not affiliated with the company in any way...just a very happy customer.

For the new Dodge you'll have to go to the dealer for a reflash of your engine computer to delete the factory controller but you'll be SO happy you got a Maxbrake

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Old 10-12-2010, 07:37 AM   #8
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New Truck

I hooked up trailer to our new truck and the brakes work great.
2011 Dodge 2500 with factory ITBC, 2006 30ft. Classic with S/O with electric over hydraulic brakes.
I set the controler on 6.5 after a little testing. The controler also shows how hard the brakes are being applied with a range of 10 thru 50. Scale might go higher but 50 is a high as I saw it go.
Had to raise the ball one hole in the drop hitch to get the trailer level. Seem to have my Reese dual cam W/D hitch adjusted about right also. I'm off to the scales this morning to see how well I did.
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