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Old 07-18-2008, 11:46 AM   #1
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1969 Brakes need wiring info

James took the 69 to the RV place to have them check the breaks. He couldn't seem to get the plug in to work for the breaks. It turns out somewere between the front plug and the breaks the wire is cut. James needs to know where is this wire usually running between the floors and what color wires goes where at the breaks.

Were not sure if PO cut wires or mice have chewed into.
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James took the 69 to the RV place to have them check the breaks. He couldn't seem to get the plug in to work for the breaks. It turns out somewere between the front plug and the breaks the wire is cut. James needs to know where is this wire usually running between the floors and what color wires goes where at the breaks.

Were not sure if PO cut wires or mice have chewed into.
There is a plate about 12 x 12 under the front of the trailer.

The wires are spliced together there.

The brake wire color is yellow.

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Thanks Andy, I have another question for you. As I am a girl I don't know much about axels. I have read just about everything that has been posted on Axels. I looked under our trailer the other night and the axels have a bend in the center is that normal or should they be straight?
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There is no place under the trailer one solid sheet of alum

At the wheels (4) there is a gray coated with black and white wire that runs up into the trailer between the floor.

The wires in the floor do the come up the right side of the frame, left side of the frame or down the center of the trailer?


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There is a plate about 12 x 12 under the front of the trailer.

The wires are spliced together there.

The brake wire color is yellow.

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Thanks Andy, I have another question for you. As I am a girl I don't know much about axels. I have read just about everything that has been posted on Axels. I looked under our trailer the other night and the axels have a bend in the center is that normal or should they be straight?
This bend is normal. It provide the camber angle to the spindles. Thats what keeps the wheel riding on the inner bearing most of the time.

If you look under the trailer again you will see short arms going from the axles back to the center of the brake drums. It is this trailing arm that you want to check. When new these arms should have an angle dropping towards the rear of the trailer. If the arms are level they are aging. If they are angled upwards they are in need of replacement. Both statement assume you have not just overloaded the trailer.

If you open the box mentioned above. Check the wiring from the umbilical to the splice in the box with an ohm meter wire for wire. Each wire that comes into the box from the front end of the trailer, may be 6 or 7, you should find a wire in the plug that reacts to the ohm meter. If you can't find a wire at the plug that responds to one of the wires in the box you have found your open wire. Most likely in the plug itself. I think you will find your problem forward of the splice box. If things check out there come back to us.
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Your connector may be inside the front wall at the floor, centered behind the front gaucho. 1969 was a transition year, and many things that were in 1968, were not in 1969, and were really not in 1970.
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What is sad is I had that wall out this past winter and summer. We had to repair some damage on the front done by a Texas Long Horn cows. Yes the cowboy had her parked in the middle of the pasture and the Long Horn used the A/S for a scratching post. YES, there is a wire panel behind the goucho, James and I were talking we didn't see any strange unhooked wires. Darn it all.

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Here is a photo of where our wiring is, behind the gaucho.
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pm'd back to you, but our brake wires are gray, look like lamp cord or speaker wire really. Our belly pan is one solid piece, but those wires do go down from that cover behind the goucho so you might need to cut a small hole in the belly pan to follow wires or feed new ones.
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If you have checked the wiring from the cord to the junction box and everything is Good but still do not have power to the brakes themselves I would run new wire back to the brakes under the pan rather than open the pan looking for the problem.

If you run new wire on the outside of the pan use at least #12 stranded wire suitable for exterior use, 2 conductor. You will have to make new connection at each brake assembly. Considering the age of the trailer I would bring the ground side wire back forward to a good known ground point.

Brakes are DC so there is no problem with electrical polarity. You can attach either wire coming from the backer plate to either side of your new wire.
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Old 07-21-2008, 06:55 AM   #11
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We have gray wire, found the break, drivers side rear wheel wire pulled out of belly (Rats/Mice). We have ran a new wire under the belly (rubber coated). Now we have breaks on all four sides. When I gut the kitchen to put in a new floor and replace the fender well on the drivers side we will run the wire between the floor.

Thanks to all for your help.
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