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Old 09-01-2014, 05:59 PM   #1
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1950 clipper backing plates??

Hi Everyone, I would like to change my backing plates on a 1950 silver streak clipper there are 5 bolts 10" X 2 brake shoes. Are there any available that will bolt up? Thanks, John Los Angeles, CA
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Hi Everyone, I would like to change my backing plates on a 1950 silver streak clipper there are 5 bolts 10" X 2 brake shoes. Are there any available that will bolt up? Thanks, John Los Angeles, CA
Ten inch electric brakes today and for many decades is 10" X 2 1/4 inch.

As I recall, the drum edge had to be cut down, in order to use the new style brakes..

But, I cannot be super sure of that fact.

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Are you sure they are 10"x2"? Usually, five mounting bolts and 2" shoe width leads to a 12" shoe.
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Sorry they measure 11" 13/16 I am going to guess it opens to 12" when install the brake width is 2" the drum is hadco 412
appreciate the help. John Los Angeles, CA
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Sorry they measure 11" 13/16 I am going to guess it opens to 12" when install the brake width is 2" the drum is hadco 412
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Those single-shoe type brakes haven't been made in a while. You can probably get a standard 12"x2" backing plate assembly, and use it.
Of course, any time you're dealing with 60+ year old stuff, anything could have changed.
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I tried that with my Liner, but the brake linings would not fit inside the drums. Rather than purchase new drums and then have to find the bearings which fit the drums and spindle, I opted for new axles with brakes.

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Those single-shoe type brakes haven't been made in a while. You can probably get a standard 12"x2" backing plate assembly, and use it.
Of course, any time you're dealing with 60+ year old stuff, anything could have changed.
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Looks like I will have to reline the shoes what about replacing the magnet???
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Looks like I will have to reline the shoes what about replacing the magnet???
I am not sure that the new style magnets will fit.

I would however suggest that you "face the music" and install the new style self adjusting 12 inch brakes, and cut the drums down if necessary.

The reason why, is that if you have trouble on a trip, you will never find parts that fit the old backing plate, which was discontinued a half a century ago.

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I just put the shell down. I am dropping the brakes off tomorrow to be relined
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I bought a set of 12"X2" brake assemblies and then found out that the brake drums would not work with my old assemblies. I started to look into converting the new parts to my old axles but when I did the math it did not make good sense, it would have cost more to keep the old axle than to just bite the bullet and get a replacement axle from Dexter. I did however decide to keep the leaf springs. I want to have brakes to go up and down our mountain (from 6,200'), an extra ton sure plays with the brakes!
PS decided not to go with self adjusters, I want to check mine and adjust them when greasing the bearings every year.
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So If I get an axle I want to keep my leaf springs at least does it change the height? How does it mount?
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I changed the axel on mine. A complete assembly with all new brakes and hubs. I started to use a 4in drop but, that too led to other problems not worth the fight. I kept all the original springs. Height is not a problem....mount the axle with standard U bolts....as original.....either top or bottom for the height you want. Check your original spring shakels for wear...mine were worn thru...to the point of failure. I go with the highest mount because of rear clearances with many driveways and service station entrances.
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How does the belly pan fit??
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It fits normally. Slide it in above the axle and screw it down. The picture here it is off so I can access the belly furnace area.
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