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Old 07-21-2013, 03:52 PM   #15
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Usaa is for military and family only correct?
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:01 PM   #16
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Yes...a Military Family.....however that is defined today. I asked about the progressive connection because, as a member of USAA for over 40 years, when I called to get both Motorcycle and Airstream replacement value coverage, I was transferred over to their affiliate....Progressive.
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:12 PM   #17
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Usaa is for military and family only correct?
Yes and children of children...

My dad was Navy, I had USAA for quite a while, don't at the moment. My son and daughter both qualify and I believe my daughter is using USAA.

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Yes...a Military Family.....however that is defined today. I asked about the progressive connection because, as a member of USAA for over 40 years, when I called to get both Motorcycle and Airstream replacement value coverage, I was transferred over to their affiliate....Progressive.
Maybe they referred you to Progressive because of the replacement value coverage aspect. I have USAA (my dad was in the Air Force) and have my trucks and 2010 Airstream all insured on my auto policy. However, USAA referred me to Progressive for my sailboat a few years ago. Apparently, they choose what areas of insurance to be in. Russ
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:20 AM   #19
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No more GYM's !!

Not ONCE, But Twice this happen! And as you can see, the tread is practically new.

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Were the tires properly inflate?

Was the running gear, tire, wheel hub and drum balanced as an assembly?

If not, then the trouble was begging to happen.

Lets not buy Fords, or Chevy's, as they too have issues, especially when not properly cared for.

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Old 07-22-2013, 10:38 AM   #20
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Were the tires properly inflate?

Was the running gear, tire, wheel hub and drum balanced as an assembly?

If not, then the trouble was begging to happen.

Lets not buy Fords, or Chevy's, as they too have issues, especially when not properly cared for.

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Andy,
How, where do I get the entire assembly balanced?
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Alright, let's take another approach to this. Why would I buy a tire that has a 65mph speed rating, meaning that I am running very close to limit all the time, and this same tire has to be thrown out in three to five years just on age alone.
On the other hand, I can buy a LT tire that has a 100mph speed rating, giving me potentially more reserve capacity, and according to Michelin has a ten year life span.

I'm just not seeing any real advantage here to buy ST tires.

I know I am just one tiny data point out here in the real world, but I can tell you that the switch to LT tires on my camper, my equipment trailer and our two horse trailers has ( knock wood ) eliminated tire failures. Go hang out at a horse show sometime and ask the guys and gals there about ST tire reliability.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:55 AM   #22
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How, where do I get the entire assembly balanced?
Some truck tire centers can do that type balancing.

Or, if your wheels are steel or have a minimum of a 10 inch flat surface on the backside, you can use the Centramatic balancers, that balance the running gear as soon as you hit 25 mph. They also adjust themselves as your tires wear.

Many trucks and busses are using them today, as well as many Airstream owners.

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Old 07-22-2013, 11:22 AM   #23
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Yes...a Military Family.....however that is defined today. I asked about the progressive connection because, as a member of USAA for over 40 years, when I called to get both Motorcycle and Airstream replacement value coverage, I was transferred over to their affiliate....Progressive.
Melody,
When did you call USAA, I called them last summer and they referred me to a company I had never heard of. Ended up going to Progressive and doing it all online directly.
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USAA told me they don't insure fulltimers so I had to go with Progressive. USAA will insure my tow vehicle but not my Airstream. However Progressive has a special department for USAA connected members.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:03 PM   #25
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It happened in NW Florida temp was 90-92 out, 65 psi, 65 mph, about 7100 lbs trailer weight, and the tires looked in good shape with plenty of tread at 4-5 years old.

In case andy missed your description...

Problem with all post marketing research is the same we see in the drug industry.....it relies on reporting of events in some manner.

Are all failures reported? Are all successes reported?

Its reasonable to assume that GYM tire failures are on some standard "uncommon" if we had truly good data...

no doubt there would be failures...but at what rate?

There would have to be an accepted gold standard "base rate" for failure by which if you are below that rate, you are doing good...above that rate, by that magnitude you are dooing not as good.

Question is: "what is the rate of failure"...

I presume we have really have no want to know this. if 50 people in airforums reported GYM failures (im not sure how many have reported failures on this forum, made that number up) - we then would wonder how many were due to user error...surely some of them would be...it appears all those that report here deny user error or neglect....this creates an unfalsifiable claim.

Having said all that...the anecdotes I find compelling enough in the void of hard data.

My question is this: how many anecdotes or how often does michellin failures similar reach the web in the same manner? It would appear based on my gleaning of this site, much fewer.

Perhaps this is a selection bias though...perhaps the owners of michellins who invest in higher cost tires are by that virtue possibly statistically more likely to check their pressures, temps, drive more cautious, etc.?

One could speculate forever to no good end.

But I think going on the best data that we have (which arguably, is not per se "high quality") - concern about GYM tires is at least reasonable...or at least I think so....
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:05 PM   #26
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Regarding USAA...my dad was in the Air Force for like 5 years when he was younger...not sure he was every with USAA though...ill need to check with him I guess...if he has not been, then Im guessing that I would not be eligeable
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:06 PM   #27
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Andy,
How, where do I get the entire assembly balanced?
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Andy does this type of service and also sells Goodyear Marathon tires.
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Old 07-22-2013, 12:19 PM   #28
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So after a fun July 4th weekend with my girlfriend on a trip in my 2009 27FB Ocean Breeze I was one mile from my home exit when I heard thumping and noticed styrofoam in the mirror. I immediately slowed down and pulled over while thinking my paddle board on the roof of my truck fell off.
Feeling your pain.

Jettisoned the ST class (after several tread separation incidents) for 16" SenDel's/Michelin LTX 'E' load.

15 months and ~11k miles, not a single issue.
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