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Old 09-09-2012, 06:12 PM   #1
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Which tire replacement

I have an Argosy 20 and the tires on it are only 2 years old but they are 700x15 bias LT tires. As we plan a 2000 mile trip this winter to Florida and I really don't want to deal with tire issues, I am wondering if I can go to radials as they run with less resistance and run much cooler. Wondering what size would be appropriate and am i better off buying a tire and wheel package. The stock wheels are ok but really need blasting and paint. I would love to find a set of mags for them Any suggestions would really be appreciated.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:14 PM   #2
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Forgot to add that I would keep the stock wheels if I can get baby moons to fit them.
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:22 PM   #3
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The Michelin LT seem to be the tire everyone is going to. I went with the LTX m/s Michelin in a 16" They do make a 15" that should work as they are rated over 2000# each..
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:31 PM   #4
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Ok so if I go with the Michelin 16" I would assume that I just need to find a size that would be a similar diameter or slightly smaller. What about a wheel? Any recommendations?
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Old 09-09-2012, 06:41 PM   #5
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Ok so if I go with the Michelin 16" I would assume that I just need to find a size that would be a similar diameter or slightly smaller. What about a wheel? Any recommendations?
not sure what the 700x 15 relates to. But I went from a 225 75 R15 to a R16 so my overall height changed by a 1/2 inch.

my new tires and rims measure about 29" high if that helps.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:15 PM   #6
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I just put Michelin LTX M/S2 P235-75-R15 XL 108T tires on our 1992 Excella. It says on the tires that they will each carry 2183 pounds. Several dealers told me the maximum capacity is 1985 lbs., but that's not what it says on the tires, and it's not what the 108 means. Some people on this forum gave me a heads up on this, and they were right on. I haven't tried the tires yet, but others have given good reports on them. They fit on my trailer. Don't know if they will fit yours.
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There has always been a big debate as to whether or not you must use "trailer" tires on a trailer as in the old days like the age of our trailers, there wasn't such a thing. Trailer tires are usually inferior in construction and quality control compared to passenger car/light truck tires and fail much more often. I'd love to hear from an ex tire mfg employee about this as to why we need to use trailer tires.
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And while we're on tires, does anyone know where I might pick up a set of mag rims or the other possibility is what baby moons fit my rims. Mine have the clips around the lug area to hold the hub caps. I painted my last trailer rims when I restored my 1957 Scotsman.
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There has always been a big debate as to whether or not you must use "trailer" tires on a trailer as in the old days like the age of our trailers, there wasn't such a thing. Trailer tires are usually inferior in construction and quality control compared to passenger car/light truck tires and fail much more often. I'd love to hear from an ex tire mfg employee about this as to why we need to use trailer tires.
For safety, use load range "D" tires.

Typically, trailer tires have greater sidewall construction, so that they are not damaged on tight turns when the trailer has 2 or 3 axles.

Then, tires are like cars.

Which is best?????

We prefer to stick with the Airstream brand tire useage.

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There has always been a big debate as to whether or not you must use "trailer" tires on a trailer as in the old days like the age of our trailers, there wasn't such a thing. Trailer tires are usually inferior in construction and quality control compared to passenger car/light truck tires and fail much more often. I'd love to hear from an ex tire mfg employee about this as to why we need to use trailer tires.
You may find the discussion in the following link helpful and educational.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ney-92584.html
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I have a '74, 20' Argosy. Virtually the same as yours. I changed to 16" aluminum wheels and 235/75 R 16 Goodrich LT tires last year. Goodrich, not Goodyear. I have about 8000 miles on them now and they are just perfect. I run them at 60 psi. You can see a not too great photo of the wheels on the Andersen hitch thread, about 4 pages back from the end. I got them locally and don't have a brand I can tell you.

The year previous I had a new Dexter Axle installed. Everything fits fine, lots of room to change the tires. It was a very good upgrade in my opinion.
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Thanks for all the great information. Andy answered the critical question for me. It has to do with "scrub" in a turn which only affects multi axle units. Now I get why trailer tires are recommended but for a single axle trailer, the forces should be similar to that of our tow vehicle and as long as the tires are a percentage over the intended load and with proper inflation, all should be fine. All light truck rated tires are at a minimum of a D range load capacity. so I guess that answers it.
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Thanks for all the great information. Andy answered the critical question for me. It has to do with "scrub" in a turn which only affects multi axle units. Now I get why trailer tires are recommended but for a single axle trailer, the forces should be similar to that of our tow vehicle and as long as the tires are a percentage over the intended load and with proper inflation, all should be fine. All light truck rated tires are at a minimum of a D range load capacity. so I guess that answers it.
It's funny that this is brought up about trailer tires? Because I couldn't find this information on any tire manufacture website. I'm wondering if someone has a link to a manufacturer talking about this. There are plenty of people and tire dealers that talk about the sidewall being stronger but not the manufacturer.

And the dealers just state that the nylon and wire threads in the tires are bigger than LT tires..

Can anyone help with this. Some real info form a manufacturer, I would like to read about it..
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:56 PM   #14
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I own a 1995 Excella 1000 34' Aristream. I am confused (not unusual) about the gross ratings stamped on the plate of the trailer. The GVWR is 8900 lbs. with a front kitchen. The GAWR is 2800 lbs.. I have three axels which by my calculation only comes to 8400 lbs.. What am I missing? Maybe the rating is for each wheel?
Currently I have E rated tires which need to be replaced before snowbirding. Do I need E rated tires or can I go to D rated tires? I am considering Michelin LT 235/75 R15 tires as I have read nothing but horror stories about tire trouble using ST tires.
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