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01-28-2016, 04:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Caroyl
This the first post I've noticed that mentions the Firestone TransForce HT LT225/75R16 tires. Do tell 😉 Why these tires? Pros? Any cons??
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All tires need to be replaced in 5-7 years regardless of brand, price, etc.
I know Michelin tires are the very best, but also the most expensive.
I will never get to use the tread life of any tire.
They will dry rot first.
Therefore, second best, less expensive tires will do for me.
Still 8-ply truck tires.
Load Range E sufficient for my trailer.
I am a fleet manager for a fleet of 300 or so trucks and 60 or so trailers.
My company uses the Firestone TransForce because they are a good compromise between quality and price.
If I had a million dollars I would go ahead and set the Michelin tires...
But I don't have a million dollars-
That being said, here's the short answer- budget- or money- or lack there of...
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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01-28-2016, 05:35 PM
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#22
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4 Rivet Member
2015 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Waxahachie
, Texas
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 380
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Wayne&Sam - The Goodyears are brand new and the trailer barely ever is used and when it is it is for short hauls, not 7,000 to 10,000 mile trips like in the Airstream. Horse trailer already had GYM on it anyway so update with nicer wheels. TPMS on each and pressure always kept up and drive 60-65 mph max. Take all precautions in world. I worry more about the idiots who do not respect someone pulling a horse or any live animal with the way they will cut you off. I'd like to strap some weigh around their bellies and stand them up in a trailer and see how they fair.
Chuck
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01-28-2016, 07:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 25' Flying Cloud
GILBERT
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 377
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Go to this site, http://www.performanceplustire.com/.
I change mine in October to the 16" Michelin, and Sandel rims, they come ready to put on and free shipping and NO TAX, mount them yourself or take them to a tire shop. I took my to Discount Tire and the charge me $50 to change out. Get 5 and the spare will fit in holder.
My cost was under $1650 out the door for all, best deal that I found.
Sold my 15" in 2 days for $500.
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2013 Chevy Tahoe LTZ
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01-28-2016, 09:21 PM
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#24
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3 Rivet Member
1967 20' Globetrotter
Englewood
, Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 2dabeach
kscherzi...I ordered 6 Michelin tires (4+2 spares), new wheels and metal valve stems directly from Airstream who shipped the entire package to me. All I had to do was to remove the old wheels and install the new wheels with the Michelin tires. The reason I purchased from Airstream was that the whole package was provided by the trailer manufacturer and had been used by Airstream with no problems on other trailers. I didn't have to be concerned about wheel off sets, wheel load and wheel pressure limitations. I also had some concerns about the possible liability of switching from the ST to LT tires and buying the package from Airstream confirmed that the package was approved by Airstream for use on their trailer. I have 7,000 trouble free miles on them and I feel a lot less stress when driving with the new Michelins.
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Why would you give Airstream the business on buying new tires from them when they put the cheapest tires they can get on them at the factory? What they install at the factory are only meant to roll them of of the assembly line. 50-120k REALLY that's what they are giving you?
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01-28-2016, 10:31 PM
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,766
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IIRC The "P" tires are 2 ply, but rated 4ply. The 16" Michelins everyone is going to are 8 ply ''E rating." Better recheck the wheel load on each wheel against the load the tire will bearing on the "P" tires. Be sure and use Centermatics.
guskmg
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01-29-2016, 04:17 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by enived2
Why would you give Airstream the business on buying new tires from them when they put the cheapest tires they can get on them at the factory? What they install at the factory are only meant to roll them of of the assembly line. 50-120k REALLY that's what they are giving you?
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An Airstream dealer (you can only get them from Jackson Center if you are there in person) quoted me like $650 each!
That's $2,600!
I did it myself for $1,000!
Then added $400 for Dill TPMS and Centramatic balancers.
So, I got way more for way less.
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2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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01-29-2016, 06:56 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 30' Classic
Burlington
, Ontario
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 2,743
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I have been happy with work done on our trailer by JC in the past, but after getting a quote from them for 16" wheels and Michelins, I wound up dealing with a local tire shop and saved a substantial amount for my 16" wheels & Michelins - including a Michelin rebate on the tires which I would not have qualified for had I bought the tires from JC..
It also avoided the need for us to detour to JC for the switch on our way south. Had I bought them at JC I would also have had to carry the old rims around for the balance of our trip to bring them home or scrap them at JC.
I wound up selling them locally, and that further reduced the cost of the upgrade.
Brian.
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2005 Classic 30'
Hensley Arrow / Centramatics
2008 GMC Sierra SLT 2500HD,4x4,Crew Cab, Diesel, Leer cap.
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01-29-2016, 08:03 AM
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#28
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTTinNJ
Those are passenger tires not light truck tires. Check to derated bearing capacity against the weight of your trailer.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by larryglarson
If you have any consideration for you money stay with the Marathons. I have just put 15,000 mile son mine and they are hardly warn. Check the air when you gas by looking at them, check with once every 2 weeks for real and keep air pressure at 65 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tjdonahoe
We have 22000 miles on the marathons, 3 years and are at 50 0/0, will be replaced soon...
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HWGA.....
I have run GYM's,(2 sets) on the Classic since new, one flat, nail no damage.
I do plan to change brands when the current set time out.
I will be staying with 15" but upgrading to "E" rated, 2830b ST.
"The hardest thing about Airstreaming, making up your mind after filling your head with how others feel it’s supposed to be….."
Bob
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01-29-2016, 12:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
An Airstream dealer (you can only get them from Jackson Center if you are there in person) quoted me like $650 each!
That's $2,600!
I did it myself for $1,000!
Then added $400 for Dill TPMS and Centramatic balancers.
So, I got way more for way less.
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I misunderstood your question. The 16" wheel/Michelin tire upgrade is available through Airstream, but at a higher cost.
I did it myself!
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01-29-2016, 11:26 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1964 26' Overlander
Warner Robins
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 200
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Good looking wheels m. hony 😃
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1964 Overlander "Gracie"
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2009 F-150 "Big Red"
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01-30-2016, 04:56 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Some assembly required!
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2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
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01-30-2016, 07:56 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari S/O
Lakeland
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2008
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After talking to sever experienced owners, I have decided to go with 16 inch wheels and tires. I went to a local Discount Tire location and was quoted around $348 each for Michelin LTX m/s2 LT225/75/16 tires, Sendel To2 wheels, metal valve stems, chrome nuts, mounted and balanced with sales tax. this seems like a pretty good deal to me. Thanks for all of your information on the fourm.
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01-30-2016, 09:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Classic
Anna Maria
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,644
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mike28
Jack,
I read your post on Michelin tires. I am considering going the same route as you. What do I need to know when ordering wheels and tires from tire rack. I have a 2005 28 Safari with slide on Goodyears' with 15 inch wheels. Is there any issue with fit and what did you do with spare tire?
Mike
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Non whatsoever, they fit perfectly.
With these Michelins on and the Blue OX WD Hitch I have a tendency to forget I am pulling a 30' trailer.
I bought a Maxxis for the spare the same size as the Good Year Marathons.
It was simpler in time and cost than screwing around with the Tire Rack.
I didn't even want to keep the GM as a spare.
I babied those tires just like I was told to do. I still had a massive blow out tire separation on I-4 going to Disney, with two others ready to blow would you believe. That is why I didn't even want it as a spare.
I believe the problem was that the tires were 2 years older than the manufacture of the Trailer.
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01-30-2016, 11:49 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
I misunderstood your question. The 16" wheel/Michelin tire upgrade is available through Airstream, but at a higher cost.
I did it myself!
Attachment 256483
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I took off the 15" wheels/Goodyear Marathons and installed 16" wheels/TransForce tires-
No issues with fit-
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1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
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01-30-2016, 07:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
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I just replaced my marathons, 3 1/2 years old and 22000 miles and they look good..the new wheels look like m hony's . $115 for the wheels and $187 for the michelins at costco....
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01-31-2016, 12:13 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1964 26' Overlander
Warner Robins
, Georgia
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 200
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Mike28, check with Discount Tire about a sale on 12-13 FEB. $100 off on a set of Michelin tires...
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