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Old 06-10-2006, 01:44 PM   #15
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For that reason I carry a flat piece of wood for my jack. Rubberized asphault is the surface of the future. However it is soft in the 100+ temps.

I have the same size tires and bias ply too.

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Old 06-12-2006, 07:55 AM   #16
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What about these?

I found these 10 ply tires or is this over kill I mean we are looking for stalbility correct?

http://cgi.ebay.com/five-7-00x15-10-...QQcmdZViewItem
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Old 06-12-2006, 12:04 PM   #17
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I found these 10 ply tires or is this over kill I mean we are looking for stalbility correct?

http://cgi.ebay.com/five-7-00x15-10-...QQcmdZViewItem

10 ply tires on your 31 foot trailer is a death warrant for the frame and shell.

You will beat it to pieces.

Do no exceed 8 ply, and use Marathon Radials.

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Old 06-12-2006, 11:28 PM   #18
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Hello Mrcrowley

Those ten ply tires Ive seen them on ebay for along time ,months,but Andy is
correct on the detriment to the trailer with those .They are very heavy duty and while thats what we all want (heavy duty) they are much to stiff and the sidewalls surely would be extra stable but rough as heck . I run herculese tires,they are very good and I have had no troubles of any kind .Now my 60 tradewind is a single axle and the D rated tires are correct for it .I like the bias ply for the ruggedness of the tire and
the vintage look they have .Remember that the bias tires of today are not the same tube type of years gone by .The radial by all means will be the smoothes tire with less rolling resistance .you do not want tires that trash your coach .If you want a bias type go with an D range only .Now on my tradewind for example the tires load rating is 2080# per tire ,and I have it loaded to no more than that the tires load range .but it is well known on these early single axle trailers like a 26 overlander a ten ply would have to be used to be able to carry the trailer ,how about a 30 ft single axle ,can you believe it?

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Old 06-13-2006, 09:54 AM   #19
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Rims for '72 Overlander??

Ok, I'm convinced that the Goodyear Marathon's (ST225/75x15 load range C) are a reliable tire and should only be used in the C load range on qa 27' unit.

Howabout the correct rims for these tires on the Overlander?? I'm looking for an aluminum cast rim. Can anybody suggest brands that meet the Aistream load spec that are safe and correct- and look good?? Maybe I'm asking for too much!
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:31 AM   #20
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Rims

After doing some research and fellow airstreamer Uwe's post

Look here: www.trailertiresandwheels.net
I bought these for my 1963, and am very happy with them. http://www.trailertiresandwheels.net...product/AW1504
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I am considering the alluminum wheel from TrailerTiresandWheels at the link above.

They are made by HiSpec Wheel and Tire, Inc. And appear to be the same rim used by Airstream. Below is a excerpt from TrailerTiresandWheels:

The AW1504 style wheel is used on some of the new
Airstream trailers and has been used for several
years. Part number AW1502 has been used by
Airstream
for about two years on some models. Part number
AW1507 Airstream has been using for about two
months.

I am also considering Centramatics for my 1972 27', I already replaced the axles a year ago and figured the Centramatics might not cost much more than a fully qualified running gear balance, (If I could even find a place to do it)

Any comments or thought would be welcome.
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Old 06-17-2006, 10:45 AM   #21
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We just had 2 blowouts within 24 hours of each other on the 2 front trailer tires on our 3 axel 34' Classic. Yes it was hot - 100-107 in New Mexico and West Texas and yes I was traveling 70mph. Did I do something wrong or can we just not travel in the summer?
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Hi oxblood--What was the brand, type, size, mileage, and age of the tires that blew out? I think we all know that triple axles are really tough on tires. The fact that only your front tires blew, would lead me to believe that they were more heavily loaded than the other four tires. If the road bed was a bit rolling, at the speed you were traveling, you may have experienced some rebounding of the trailer, which really loaded up the fronts.--Frank S
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Old 06-17-2006, 01:25 PM   #23
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We just had 2 blowouts within 24 hours of each other on the 2 front trailer tires on our 3 axel 34' Classic. Yes it was hot - 100-107 in New Mexico and West Texas and yes I was traveling 70mph. Did I do something wrong or can we just not travel in the summer?
Not unless the tires were not inflated to max.
Not unless the tires had cracks.
Not unless the trailer was overloaded.
Not unless the trailer was not pulling level.

With a 2003 unit I assuming you were running OE tires. This would make them 3 to 4 years old. Depending on usage and storage, I would be concerned that they failed prematurely. And that happened on my boat trailer. What I doscovered is my boat trailer tires brand new, did not have the load capacity for the job. When I added 80 gals of fuel to the boat I was actually overloaded. I had to tow with 1/2 tank untill I replaced the tires. They were junk.

I am not sure how Marthons (this is what I have heard) get away with only a 100 degree test. The air temp get well over 100 in the summer around these parts. And the asphalt is 20 to 30 degrees hotter. With triples may be it is a good idea to rotate tires every so often. I have never had a triple axle rig, and I understand the tire scuff on turns. My boat trailer gets a lot of tire scuff because of the way I park it. However it's only 2 axle.

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Old 06-17-2006, 08:51 PM   #24
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Do not believe in hearsay. Go to the NHTSA web site

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/portal/site...f3210dba046a0/

Scroll down the page to #119, which is the test now used by the tire industry.
The new tests due to take ffect soon are a bit farther down the page. Their Number is #139.

Be empowered through information. You remember, "the truth shall set you free".
Finally to all fellow streamers and rv owners who read this site for information, keep records on your tires, original receipts, these have the DOT number branded into your tires.
Go to the web site

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

in the center of the page you will find the phrase "Recalls Search From Office of Defects Investigation"

Select this and follow the directions and file complaints when you have a tire failure. It only takes a few for the office to take notice(10 to 20 a month) and the Govt will purchase these tires from unsuspecting merchaqnts and test in accordance with their requirements.

Email the engineer Mr Gellispe and ask him questions. He is the authority. He is responsible for these tests.

Remember, Speed Rating is a European concept driven by the Autobahn and the need for tires that would survive the speeds driven there.
American Tire Manufacturers adoped the testing criteria as an advertising ploy to show how gook their tires are.
The Speed Rating on the tire is the overall acid test of how much heat the tire will withstand. If a tire at 100 degrees F. at full load will withstand 99 MPH then is will withstand 65 MPH at what ever the temp happens to be with a wide safety margin.
A tire with no Speed Rating is tested at 65 MPH max, under full load as stated on the sidewall, after being allowed to being heated to 100 Degrees F.
This means simply this, if you are towing your unit and:
1. The pavement temperature exceeds 100 Degrees F, you have exceeded the proven limits of the tire and are damaging the tire and it will not recover from this, only be weakened.
2. If you ever exceed 65 MPH for any reason you have exceeded the proven limits of the tire and are damaging the tire and it will not recover from this, only be weakened.

Please, don't take what I have said here at face value.
Go to the web sites and read and understand for yourselves.
Email Mr. Gellispie, he will answer you.
Call Mr. Gellispie, he will return your calls and talk freely with as much as he is allowed to.
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1. The pavement temperature exceeds 100 Degrees F, you have exceeded the proven limits of the tire and are damaging the tire and it will not recover from this, only be weakened.

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I took my remote temperture gauge and placed it on my driveway this morning at 9:30. It was in the sun and my driveway is cement. At 10:00 it shutdown when it reached 125 F. I am sure the blacktop is much hotter. What do people who live in hot climates do?
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I took my remote temperture gauge and placed it on my driveway this morning at 9:30. It was in the sun and my driveway is cement. At 10:00 it shutdown when it reached 125 F. I am sure the blacktop is much hotter. What do people who live in hot climates do?
They park the trailer, in a creek. LOL

Not really.

But parking it on grass helps, but if that is not available, then "tire shades" work wonders.

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Old 06-18-2006, 07:07 PM   #27
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The Goodyear Marathons may be a good tire but Goodyear is apparently now outsourcing them. The newer Marathons (at least some of them) have a VO plant code that is registered to South Pacific Tyres, Upper Hutt, Wellington, New Zealand. The tires with the VO code are also branded made in New Zealand.
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Old 06-18-2006, 09:14 PM   #28
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It dosen't matter where they are made. They are still made to GoodYear specs at best, and those specs are 65 MPH and 100 Degrees F.

Still, keep your records and when you have a tire failure complain to the NHTSA at this site:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

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