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Old 12-05-2010, 06:36 PM   #29
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While not an Airstream, our 27-foot Bayliner cabin cruiser has triple axles; and the tires rollover so bad that the tires look like they are going to come off of the rims. The one saving grace is that when we make the tight U-turn on the boat ramp, the pavement is usually wet from other boaters pulling out of the water. However, when we pull the boat out of our backyard, the tires look like they are going to come off; and they leave skid marks all across our driveway. (Hey, maybe I should wet down our driveway before pulling out.) By the way, the trailer tires are balanced; and we have never lost a wheel weight. (FYI, the boat trailer has Green Ball, 225-75x15, LRE tires on it from Discount Tire.)

As an aside on Centramatics, I checked with our neighbors (long-haul truckers) on their experience with Centramatics on their big rig. They have been using these for years on their tractor; and while they say they can't tell a significant difference in road vibration, the main reason they continue to use them is longer tire wear. On the steering axle, they used to get 90-110,000 miles on their front tires; and with the Centramatics, they consistently get 185,000. And, on the drive wheels, they get 300,000 (with) versus 250,000 miles (without).

They said that they didn't know if Centramatics came in a smaller size to fit travel trailers (but we do, thanks to Andy). However, they strongly recommended checking to see if we could add them to our Tundra.

Andy, do they make Centramatics to fit 18-inch, TRD (alloy) wheels on a 2008 Tundra CrewMax? Have you sold any for this application?
What is the lug pattern and is there at least a 10 inch flat spot on the back side of the wheel?

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Old 12-05-2010, 09:06 PM   #30
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Andy, I have some other questions for you, too, so will respond by private message. Thanks --Phoenix
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Old 07-10-2012, 11:14 AM   #31
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Thumbs up Discount Tire did it for us....



They Balanced & Rotated all 5 Tires (4 + 1 Spare) for $70 Life-Time Fee... Next Oil Change--- I will get all tires on my Rig + SUV changed for free... In my opinion--- this is a stress free way of making sure everyone is safe....

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Old 07-10-2012, 12:17 PM   #32
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They Balanced & Rotated all 5 Tires (4 + 1 Spare) for $70 Life-Time Fee... Next Oil Change--- I will get all tires on my Rig + SUV changed for free... In my opinion--- this is a stress free way of making sure everyone is safe....

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Hopefully it is just the way the picture looks to me, however it appears that the jack is on one of the axles. I have read here that placing the jack on the axle is not recommended due to possible damage to the axle.

Am I just looking at it incorrectly?

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Old 07-10-2012, 12:36 PM   #33
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Andy is correct. High cycle fatique is a well know fact with aluminum. This is why occasionally the roof blows off a plane. Usually the rivets go first and then other stuff. I have some loose interior rivets but don't seem to have any major structural damage. I plan on getting some Centramatics at some point. I did get my tires balance but they did not want to. Tires will wear and cup if not properly balanced.

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Anyone that claims tires don't need to be balanced on an Airstream trailer, very obviously knows "zero" about the characteristics and/or how an Airstream behaves when subjected to vibrations.

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@Ken---- Jacks are on both Axles-- same time; I have never heard jacking any RV, Trailer or Vehicle is bad for them... Not in my 60's yet, but I would be surprised to find anything in writing (e.g. opinion free) stating otherwise... Hoping a few Seasoned folks see this post, and point us to documentation stating one way or the other...

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@Ken---- Jacks are on both Axles-- same time; I have never heard jacking any RV, Trailer or Vehicle is bad for them... Not in my 60's yet, but I would be surprised to find anything in writing (e.g. opinion free) stating otherwise... Hoping a few Seasoned folks see this post, and point us to documentation stating one way or the other...

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I'm not going to do the research now, but I think one of the opinions came from my Dexter axle manual.

In any case it has been discussed a lot here, so I sure someone who knows more about it will chime in.

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Quote below is from Dexter Axle FAQ Web page:

Dexter Axle - Trailer Axles and Running Gear Components - FAQ'S

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Is it okay to jack up my trailer?

Dexter recommends that you do not jack up the trailer on the suspension components because there is always the potential for damage. Bent hangers, leaf springs, or axle tubes can cause bad axle alignment with bad tire wear resulting. Also, many trailer builders do not use Dexter hangers and we have no idea how strong these hangers may or may not be. Therefore, we take the conservative approach and recommend jacking up only on the trailer frame.
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Airstream builds the trailer with a plate to be used for lifting the trailer off the ground. That plate is typically located behind the axle(s).

Lifting the trailer by the axle tube is not recommended and couold cause damage to the axle tube, either in alignment or by crushing the tube with the rubbertorsion rods inside. The length of the rod determines how much weight the axle will handle. Shortening this by deforming the axle tube will diminish the weight load the axle will handle.

Read the owner's manual or if available the shop manual.

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