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Old 02-09-2015, 09:29 AM   #29
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Will any dealers swap wheels and tires if buying a new AS?

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Old 02-09-2015, 10:08 AM   #30
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Will any dealers swap wheels and tires if buying a new AS?

For a price! $$$$

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Old 02-09-2015, 10:19 AM   #31
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Will any dealers swap wheels and tires if buying a new AS?
When we bought New Lucy (2015 FC 25FB) in October of last year. I asked one dealer that question. They wanted over $800 per wheel/tire for 16" Michelins, and didn't offer to give me anything for the OEM wheels/tires. That would have been over $4,000 for the upgrade.

I was able to buy the Sendel 16" wheels mounted with Michelin LT's for $330.00 each delivered ready to put on the trailer.

I was able to sell Lucy's almost new OEM tires and wheels here on the Forums Classifieds for $600. They sold the first day that they were listed.

The 16" tire/wheel upgrade ended up costing me a little over $1,000 which I felt was a bargain. I also added a set of Centramatic Balancers which set me back another $200.

I knew that I wanted this upgrade as I had put 60,000 miles on Old Lucy (2005 Safari 25FB) with this same set-up. When I traded her in, there was no discernible tread wear. In Old Lucy's first 50,000 miles, I had gone through four sets of ST tires. Her OEM Goodyear Marathons were gone by 10,000 miles with three catastrophic failures (blowouts) at highway speeds. Fortunately, she only sustained minor body damage. After replacing the first two original Marathons with new ones, one of those blew out in pretty short order. I finally replaced the Marathons with a set of Maxxis (load range E) ST's. These did much better. I had one flat, but no blowouts. At about 25,000 miles, the Maxxis suffered tread separation. I replaced them with another set of Maxxis E's. This set only went about 15,000 miles before the tread separation started again. I replaced two of these with Carlisle ST tires as these were all I could get in rural Maine, and I had to wait five days for those.

As we were traveling so extensively, I decided that I could not put up with the crappy ST tires any longer. I brought Old Lucy to Jackson Center and treated her to a set of 16" Michelin LT's, and never looked back. In the 60,000 miles that followed, Old Lucy had no tire issues whatsoever.

The moral of my story is that if I had gotten Old Lucy the 16" Michelins at the beginning when she was new, I would have saved a couple of thousand dollars and a whole lot of grief and down time.

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Old 02-09-2015, 11:10 AM   #32
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I have 14000 miles on our 31' so far so good,even tread wear on, old trailer the replacement tires were junk at 17000 miles, were worn out with bulges in tread, caught them before they blew though, when the present original 15" are worn down they will be replaced with 16".
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Old 02-18-2015, 08:57 AM   #33
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Like moosetags, been there, done that and got the T-shirt!

Got my AS in Oct 2011 with new ST tires. By summer of 2014 I had 2 tread separations and a blowout. Using an infrared thermometer, I saw that the ST tires ran quite hot, hot enough to trigger my TPMS system. Since I service at the mothership (JC) and the axles needed replacing, I went whole hog - upgraded axles, 16" wheels and Michelin LTX(M+S2)225/75R16(E) tires, Centramatics & Dill TPMS. JC had a deal on the wheels and tires and they also adjusted the spare tire carrier to hold the slightly larger tires. I tow about 15,000 miles a year.
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Old 02-18-2015, 09:50 AM   #34
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Switz - the SenDel T03-66655T wheel as it is rated 3,580 pounds at 100 psi - not 80? Or am I missing something?

Some great data and facts in this thread - thanks all.
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Old 02-18-2015, 10:26 AM   #35
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I very much appreciate everyone's "real world" sharing of their trailer tire experiences. Incredible!

Phoenix, I also appreciate the tire survey results. So very helpful! For everyone who participated in the survey, thank you!

With this combination of sharing and knowledge we each get to make an informed decision that we think is best for us and our particular circumstances.

I am very thankful to each of you and to all who share so willingly on this forum to keep us each safe and to make our trips as enjoyable and as fun as possible!
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Old 03-12-2015, 06:14 PM   #36
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Has anyone tried a 16" ST tire, something like a GYM ST235/80R16D? It certainly would give a larger load safety buffer (3000# vs 2540# on stock GYM 15's) and at 65 psi max inflation a potential softer ride than the alternative 80 psi LTs. But would the 30.7" diameter and 9.2" width be too much for the AS wheel-well.
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Old 03-12-2015, 06:34 PM   #37
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You don't need it until you need it. The "I haven't had a problem yet" statement is not a valid argument for why XYZ is perfectly fine. I haven't had an vehicle accident, so I should stop wearing a seat belt.

Just because it hasn't happened YET doesn't mean it can't. Congratulations you're beating the odds right now. Please don't use fallacies as arguments.

It's also marginalizing a large number of people to say they just "Want to tinker with things". (another fallacy) As to say there are no valid reasons for their tinkering or upgrades.

The pros and cons along with the reasons for upgrading have been heavily debated, discussed and vetted. One only needs to determine if those qualifications are in line with their own objectives & needs for their Airstream.

16 LT's are not ideal for every trailer and every user, but it's kind of annoying to see those who post up dismissing the entire notion all together as though someone is just doing it because everyone else is doing it.

I know these discussions fall heavily into the territory of personal opinion. But try to make valid arguments without marginalizing each other or accusing others of being lemmings. Some of us do a lot of research before hand.

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