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Old 04-08-2003, 07:05 PM   #1
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Tube type tires for 77 alum rims

Hi all,
We have a 77 23' safari with the factory aluminum tube type rims and are getting ready to replace the tires and were trying to find out what is available to replace them with. We currently have Michelin 7.00 15 XCA D range on it but they are of unknown age and are starting to weathercrack on the sidewalls so I want to replace them.
I have not been able to find any info on Goodyear Marathons in a tube type tire. If I can get the Michelins again I will replace them with same, unless someone has some other suggestions on a quality tube type ST tire. Any comments?
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Old 04-08-2003, 07:17 PM   #2
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tubeless??

Tube type? Are you sure? I believe by 77 most everything including A/S's had tubeless tires on it. I don't think there is such a thing as a tube type Goodyear Marathon. You are probably looking at finding a tubeless tire such as the Marathon's, Toyo's, Michelins and similar. Plenty of info here on tires and plenty of personal preferences so happy searching.

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Old 04-08-2003, 07:18 PM   #3
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The rims you have should be able to have a tubeless tire mounted on it. Is there a reason you want to go with a tube based tire?

I had a situation that I needed to keep a tire on a classic car and it was not pluggable (legal) so I had the tire shop put a tube in it. It did not affect the tire and the wheel just needed to be re-balanced to adjust for the tube.
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Old 04-08-2003, 08:12 PM   #4
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Tube type rims

I am guessing that the rims are tube type as that is what the current tires are, but if a tubeless tire can be safely used that opens up a bunch of different options.
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Old 04-08-2003, 08:23 PM   #5
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For what it is worth, I have 1972 which had tube types mounted on steel wheels. I changed to Marathon tubeless with no problems (two years). A good tire store should answer any questions.

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Old 04-09-2003, 03:23 PM   #6
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Mike,

Are those rims split rims? It would be a little unusual if they were. Split rims stopped prior to the manufacture of your unit. However a PO may have made a change. Or the rims that you have leak for some reason and the PO fixed that by using tubes.

Like thenewkid64 and George I have fixed a leak by putting a tube in a tubless tire. It's not the best fix due to added heat and balance issues, and I have done it.

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Old 04-09-2003, 06:34 PM   #7
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These rims are forged one piece aluminum slotted type wheels. In my owners manual there are many pictures of the same wheels throughout the manual, but I do not know if they were originally tubeless or not. When looking at the rims it does not look to me like they were tubeless because the holes where the tube valve stem exits is fairly large. There surely has to be someone else who has the same rims that could maybe answer the question. Tubeless or tube type? Oh by the way, the Michelin XCAs that are currently on the trailer are tube type radials. It says it right on the tire. I wonder if these are the XC that the owners manual makes reference to
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After looking through my '77 Excella 500 31' owners manual, it mentions that my trailer came with steelbelted radials. My service manual mentions tubeless tires mounted on aluminum rims. Hope this helps.
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"When looking at the rims it does not look to me like they were tubeless because the holes where the tube valve stem exits is fairly large."

The valve stem which fits in a tubless rim IS rather large. The base forms a grommet which is maybe twice the diameter of the stem.


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Mike,

Based on what you responded, those rims can be used with tubeless tires. And the rim (or rims as the case may be) may have a leak. Therefore the PO may have installed a tube to fix that issue.

My wife has a one piece cast wheels on her Toyota. The right front has a pin hole leak in the main body of the rim. I have not fixed it yet, and it shouldn't be too hard.

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The hole for the valve stem is large to allow a threaded bolt in valve stem. The kind you would use on a heavy duty truck. They can be gotten in a nice chrome at NAPA for 6-7 bucks each. There is a curved??base with a rubber washer, and a locknut with a washer too. Slip the valve stem thru the rim and run the locknut down tight. If the tire needs to be removed or changed the tire shop will just uncrew the inner valve stem insert.
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