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03-15-2016, 09:00 AM
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#101
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 567
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How did Discount Tire jack up the AS to remove the wheels?
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Originally Posted by ghaynes755
TST has both internal and external sensors. If you go externals I use the non flow thru type. Shorter than the flow thru's and easy to remove. They don't stick out as far.
And yes, get the tires dynamically balanced. When I got my Classic I went to Discount Tire. Replaced all of the rubber stems, replaced all of the lug nuts with solid nuts and had a balance down with the sensors installed. Under $100 for everything.
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03-15-2016, 09:06 AM
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#102
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Rivet Master
2013 27' FB International
El Dorado Hills
, California
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 2,023
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Like this.
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03-15-2016, 10:11 AM
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#103
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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We got the TST with internal sensors installed with our Michelins so did all at once, including dynamic balancing at the tire shop.
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03-16-2016, 04:57 AM
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#104
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2 Rivet Member
2007 28' Classic
Ivanhoe
, Virginia
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 38
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Not sure what all the worry about balance is about, I just put the tst's on the metal valve stems and went with it. Trailer seems to ride smoothly, everything stays in place, no sign of uneven tire wear. This on s different Rv's, same Tv.
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03-16-2016, 06:54 AM
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#105
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3 Rivet Member
2008 30' Classic
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 104
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This picture illustrates the wrong way to lift an Airstream. Dexter Axle, the manufacturer of the axles that Airstream uses, specifically states not to lift the trailers in this way.
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03-16-2016, 07:09 AM
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#106
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
alexandria
, Kentucky
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,314
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bandits
This picture illustrates the wrong way to lift an Airstream. Dexter Axle, the manufacturer of the axles that Airstream uses, specifically states not to lift the trailers in this way.
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To me it looks like the jacks are directly under the axle mounting bracket if you blow up the picture. It is acceptable to place a jack or jack stand in this spot.
Do not place the jack directly under the axle tube.
My trailer is left on jack stands all winter with the stands just under axle bracket.
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Steve, Christy, Anna and Phoebe (Border Collie)
1994 Classic 30'11" Excella - rear twin
2009 Dodge 2500, 6 Speed Auto, CTD, Quad Cab, Short Bed
Hensley Arrow hitch with adjustable stinger
WBCCI # 3072
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03-16-2016, 07:17 AM
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#107
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2 Rivet Member
1975 31' Romany
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 32
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What is the correct lifting point on the trailer?
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03-16-2016, 07:57 AM
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#108
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kosullivan
What is the correct lifting point on the trailer?
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Mine are aft and slightly inboard from the rear axle. They are marked with a small attached patch,
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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03-16-2016, 08:14 AM
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#109
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 8,201
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This is one truly annoying thing about Airstream trailers. If the jack point is so critical, why don't they mark the doggone thing with a big yellow sticker and a "Jack here" sign so nobody does it wrong? Seriously, this is something about which there should be zero mystique.
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03-16-2016, 09:55 AM
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#110
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Rivet Master
1998 30' Excella 1000
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
This is one truly annoying thing about Airstream trailers. If the jack point is so critical, why don't they mark the doggone thing with a big yellow sticker and a "Jack here" sign so nobody does it wrong? Seriously, this is something about which there should be zero mystique.
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My rig does have "jack here" labels on those jack points. And even have the owners manual instructions that highlight using them. I used them once to drop my tank covers. They put a huge amount of flex in the frame. Door could not even come close to closing. I now use the axle mounting plate as shown in the photo. In my opinion, much better for not stressing the frame.
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03-16-2016, 09:59 AM
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#111
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 567
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Do the new (2015+) trailers still have the non solid lug nuts?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghaynes755
TST has both internal and external sensors. If you go externals I use the non flow thru type. Shorter than the flow thru's and easy to remove. They don't stick out as far.
And yes, get the tires dynamically balanced. When I got my Classic I went to Discount Tire. Replaced all of the rubber stems, replaced all of the lug nuts with solid nuts and had a balance down with the sensors installed. Under $100 for everything.
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03-17-2016, 07:50 AM
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#112
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
This is one truly annoying thing about Airstream trailers. If the jack point is so critical, why don't they mark the doggone thing with a big yellow sticker and a "Jack " sign so nobody does it wrong? Seriously, this is something about which there should be zero mystique.
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Mine does, see previous post for picture of jacking point. Both sides have this little patch. One side still has the "Jack" sticker. It came of the other side somewhere down the road.
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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03-17-2016, 10:46 AM
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#113
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 567
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So is it safe to use these jack points to change a tire?
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03-18-2016, 07:04 AM
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#114
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 8,278
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusjk
So is it safe to use these jack points to change a tire?
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Yes, on page C-3 of my owners manual that is the approved and recommend lifting point for tire changing.
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MICHAEL
Do you know what a learning experience is? A learning experience is one of those things that says "You know that thing that you just did? Don't do that."
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05-30-2016, 09:05 AM
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#115
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 567
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What High/Low Temp settings should I go with for a FC 23? Factory Defaults?
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05-30-2016, 09:35 AM
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#116
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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If you are in fact questioning the temperature setting and not the pressure setting. If you are using the TST system the temperature setting is factory set at 158. That is the temperature that Michelin has suggested since tires will fail above 180 degrees they give that margin of safety. If you are using another system i would assume that recommendation would be advisable.
As far as pressure setting high would be 20 psi above cold pressure and low 10 psi below cold setting.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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05-30-2016, 09:38 AM
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#117
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 567
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Yes I have the TST 507. The trailer has Goodyear Marathon tires rated at 65 psi so I will use your high low recommendations. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by HowieE
If you are in fact questioning the temperature setting and not the pressure setting. If you are using the TST system the temperature setting is factory set at 158. That is the temperature that Michelin has suggested since tires will fail above 180 degrees they give that margin of safety. If you are using another system i would assume that recommendation would be advisable.
As far as pressure setting high would be 20 psi above cold pressure and low 10 psi below cold setting.
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05-30-2016, 09:57 AM
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#118
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 567
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Any recommendations on how to number/set up 4 TST 507 sensors for a dual axle TT?
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05-30-2016, 10:57 AM
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#119
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Rivet Master
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,105
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusjk
Any recommendations on how to number/set up 4 TST 507 sensors for a dual axle TT?
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I got TST 507s three years ago. The kit came with a bunch of ID stickers and some documentation on their numbering plan.
For a dual axle trailer, the front axle IDs are T1 for the left and T4 for the right, and the rear axle IDs are T5 for the left and T8 for the right.
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05-30-2016, 11:21 AM
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#120
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusjk
Any recommendations on how to number/set up 4 TST 507 sensors for a dual axle TT?
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If you are not comfortable with a left to right front to rear numerical system using the tags that came with the system consider getting a fine pointed permanent marker and marking each wheel per your idea.
Mine are 1 -10 front to rear.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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