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Old 08-05-2002, 05:18 PM   #15
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I can imagine that a 31 foot Excella would shred car tires inflated to 60lbs, especially on Hwy 40 near Amarillo. America's worst Interstate.
I lost 2 BRAND NEW e-rated truck tires near Amarillo, one 40 miles east, the other 30 miles west of Amarillo. On a Sunday late Afternoon. I was not towing, but carrying a heavy load in my van.
Using e-rated truck tires on a sub5000 lb trailer in my opinion is not ideal, but I don't think it's unsafe. I do see a lot of trailers on the road with passenger car whitewalls, which I believe is entirely unsafe.
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Old 11-25-2002, 12:26 PM   #16
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Update

I had an interesting experience with the Carlisle tires that I purchased earlier in the year.
While safety checking my brakes and bearings, I noticed one of my wheels acting like a swinging pendulum, coming to a rest slowly. I turned the wheel/tire assembly a few inches, let go, and the same thing happened. Turned it the other way, with the same result, being that the tire would come to a stop in exactly the same place. So I took it off, took off a tire from the other side, and headed for my tire dealer's shop.
It took ELEVEN ( that's 11) ounces to balance this tire/wheel assembly.
we dismounted the tire several times, moved it on the rim, but never got below 6 or 7 ounces to get it in balance. Then mounted the tire to a brand X light alloy wheel, checked the balance, and again came up with unusually high balance weights. I took back the wheels, mounted them to the trailer and drove around for a while with the trailer in tow, back to the tire dealer, this time with warm tires. They checked the balance on all 4 wheels, with very poor results. ( This is not the dealer where I originally purchased the tires) It was close to impossible to get the tires to balance on a spin balancer to get to where the readings were "0"
It took several hours and lots of lead to get the tires to a semi balanced state.
I will buy new tires soon. I will buy Marathons, and I will use my reputable tire dealer to install them and balance the wheels. I thought I got a good price on the tires, but i actually bought trouble. Marathons are available online for less than $70.00 each. I paid more than that for an obviously inferior product. Just thought I'd share this with the forum.
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Old 11-26-2002, 11:03 PM   #17
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Everyone seems to like the BFG All Terrain Radials around here even if they cost more. I had all kinds of problems with the older style BFG tires when it came to sidewall cuts. I lost 2 tires this way. I guess any company may put out a bad tire once in a while. I have the Carlisles with over 3500 miles on them so far and recently checked each tire to be sure the bearings/tires were spinning freely. Everything seemed to be fine with no uneven treadwear. I will repack bearings the beginning of winter.
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Old 11-27-2002, 08:09 AM   #18
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I have had exceptionally good luck with every set of Good Year Marathon radial ST tires that I have owned. Both my '64 Overlander International, and Argosy Minuet are currently riding on Marathons - - P225 75 R15 Load Range D on the Overlander, P225 75 R15 Load Range C on the Minuet. The Overlander has been all over the western US with its current set dating to 1999 with about 20,000 miles of travel - - they are rotated and balanced at the beginning of each season when the wheel bearings are packed. When I purchase the Minuet in August, there was no question in my mind - - it too received a set of new Marathons. I will admit that the decision is easier since I have been buying tires from the same Good Year dealer for more than two decades with absolutely fabulous service.

The only unsatisfactory set of Good Year tires that I have ever owned were the bias-ply Marathons that came as original equipment on the 1980 Nomad that I purchased new. Those tires lasted less than a year, but my Good Year dealer made a good-faith (I don't think that the factory reimbursed him for the adjustment) adjustment on the tires (the same dealer that I still patronize).

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Old 11-27-2002, 08:28 AM   #19
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Just wanted to give another input. I've used on the A/S TOYO tires for nearly 4 yrs now with excellent results so far. The side walls still look excellent and like new..The tread depth is still almost like new. This with over 14,00 mmiles on them..I;m in awed of the life expectancy so far, it's been a decent tire.
this is a picture of what they looked like abt two weeks ago.
btw, Andy...you can see the top of the Wheels toooo.. lol
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My understanding from talking to a gentleman at Cooper Tire who their Customer relations folks brought in especially to answer my questions and who actually builds tires and is also a trailerist is that safety-wise you can use either the LT or ST tires if the load range is correct for your application.
The LT Tires have a greater variety of sizes and tread patterns to select from to suit special concerns you may have for snow or off-road use.
The ST tires are a hybrid of Light Truck Tire fabric components and load capacity and Passenger Car Tire construction and shock absorbing ride. ST tires are also put together with a special rubber additive designed to resist UV deterioration when sitting parked in the off-season.
ST Tires are indeed "Special Trailer". The are specifically designed to protect the trailer chassis and body components from road shock, with a very strong but also importantly very flexible sidewall, they are as capable as a LT tire load wise and carry the same load as a LT Tire but at a lower, less punishing air pressure.
I am currently running Goodyear/Dunlop LT 235-75R 15D tires on my 26' Argosy, but plan on going with the Cooper ST Tires next time, to take some of the stress off the trailer components.
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Nice wheels

Those are nice wheels you have on your turtle, 53FlyingCloud.
What kind are they? I think they would look swell on mine as well. Did you buy them or a PO?

Uwe,
Where can one find the Marathon's on the internet for cheep?

Thanks guys.
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Old 11-27-2002, 12:24 PM   #22
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Dave-O, Many thanks..

Those are Alco wheels from A/S..
I replaced the old steel wheels and had these put on at the factory..They should still have them in stock.
Cost?? you're not gonn believe this but..I forgot...lol
Seems as I recall paying either 237$ per wheel or, 324$.
My papers are still in the A/S down in Virginia..
Again, thanks..
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Ouchie Momma!

No wonder they look so good! But that's certainly not out of line in terms of factory part pricing. Automotive wheels from the manufacturer can seem expensive, whether it be from Airstream or Cadillac.
I will continue looking for a more reasonably priced facsimile, if there is one.
Thanks for sharing, 53FlyingCloud.
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Old 11-29-2002, 06:26 AM   #24
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I saw aluminum wheels in the showroom for $65, maybe I should have snag 'em! I did not look at them closely, maybe they were for the smaller single axle trailers.
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Old 11-29-2002, 08:13 AM   #25
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Thumbs up Sounds like a steal~

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maybe they were for the smaller single axle trailers
You might be right.
I'm thinking a company like A/S would use the same size wheels/brakes/axle, etc. Might not be the same "finis" for each model but..
The price of 65$ per is certainly good~! (Wished I hada seen them)
It's been my experiences in walking around the A/S store that, you can find a bargain.. of some kind~!
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Usually single axle tires and wheels will have to work harder. The load is greater on a per wheel basis.

Factory wheels (or anything thing else for that manner) are usually more expensive. And they are built to a higher standard. The factory has more at stake. Both from customer satisfaction and liability. This is most likely an area that you get what you pay for. ------

Then there are used trailer wheels that one could save a buck or
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I will need to get new tires on my Overlander soon. The ones on it now are 7.00x15LT bias-ply load range C Super Hiway Kings. I don't see a brand name anywhere. I like the look of them, they seem to have more height and have the original equipment look. The tires I put on my Minuet were the ST 225 radials, I believe they were load range D's, seem to work o.k. but just don't look right, a little cheesey, would probably look better on a taxicab. I think the bias ply's would be more authentic. I am probably the pickiest guy around when it coes to wheels and tires so try to be easy on me. Has anybody had any good experiences with the bias ply's or have they gone the way of the dinosaur?

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How about Carlsile (sp) tires?

Chas, our Argosy has a set of these on, they look just like the old ones I see on the old pictures of AS's. They look bulletproof - almost like a tractor tire! However, an old posting from Uwe seemed to indicate some balancing issues. I do know that things inside the trailer end up all over, so I'm going to be checking into this soon. However, I do think the look is right. I'm pretty sure they are radials though. I did have some bias plys (from "Discount Tires" on my old boat trailer. They seemed fine, but cracked early (after one year - two different sets!). I did notice that the radials (Goodyear) on my current boat trailer REALLY flex over the bumps. Gave me the whilly's first time I looked in the mirrors. My old Bias ply flexed - but not nearly that much. I haven't noticed that much deflection from the Carlsile tires. Sorry, the trailers not here so I can't check the spelling or post a picture.
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