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Old 11-09-2007, 08:41 PM   #1
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I am ready for some new tires. Just discovered first hand that carlile tires are made in the usa and heard that goodyear marathons are now made in china. any opinions on this issue?
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...... any opinions on this issue?



hi zesto and welcome to the forums...

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I am ready for some new tires. Just discovered first hand that carlile tires are made in the usa and heard that goodyear marathons are now made in china. any opinions on this issue?
Opinions without facts to back them up are nothing more than rumors and hype. It seems that Marathons tend to blow up on occasion...that's a fact. To say that it would happen to chinese tires only would be a rumor at this point.
It is a fact that Marathons are installed on all new Airstream trailers, and have been for many years. So, in this forum, if there's a tire problem, most of the time it's a Marathon, of course. Those that had the problems also came up with excellent solutions, such as going to 16" wheels and LR E-rated tires.
In any event, the forum's search function will make your head spin with Marathon opinions and facts. My facts at this time are that Marathons are excellent, I never had one fail. I trust others that say that their's are junk, since they had bad experience with theirs.
I deduct ( opinion) that most trailer tires have some sort of substandard construction materials, making them disintegrate prematurely. Truck tires are more sturdy ( also opinion) and seem to hold up better to trailering near the weight limit of the tire. But then again, I never had a problem with my Marathons....
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You raise a good point, Uwe. Opinions vs. facts. I wonder how useful it would be to start a thread, and ask that it be made a sticky thread, that explains about trailer tires. I'm thinking basic information. For example, I understand what the phrase "load range" means, but am clueless about LT, LR, ST and so on.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this thread.

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You raise a good point, Uwe. Opinions vs. facts. I wonder how useful it would be to start a thread, and ask that it be made a sticky thread, that explains about trailer tires. I'm thinking basic information. For example, I understand what the phrase "load range" means, but am clueless about LT, LR, ST and so on.

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack this thread.

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Jim, a moderator could answer your first request.
I can answer the second part of your post. LT means Light Truck Tire. LR means Load Range. ST means Special Trailer tire. And so on means there's more...
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Now ya see, that's what I was afraid of!
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Opinions are great, aren't they...?

Well, just as stated before, everybody's got one, and since this thread is asking for opinion... It seems to me the question is USA vs. China. I've no problem with many Chinese goods, but personally I'm trying to factor in the embodied energy, transportational energy, and employment issues into my purchases. I'd stick with the USA company (they make great golf cart tires!) for the aforementioned reasons... but then again, it's just my opinion!

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why reinvent the tire?

i agree with everything in uwe's first post...

except using 'search' for tires...

no need to do that, just go to the TIRES sub forum...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438...ort=replycount

then press either the 'replies' or 'views' button...

this simple step will at least pull up the most frequent'd threads...

FULL of stuff.

there is already a sticky...

and it's mostly icky.

IF you need help with tire terminology just go here...

Tire Tech

most of the basics are covered well.

we've got inflation tables listed up the waz....

and brand reports,

and testimonials and un-test'd monials...

but to answer the o.p. question...

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I am ready for some new tires.... any opinions on this issue?
IF you are ready for some new tires....

then get some!

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2 more things,

1 observation and 1 fact....

this op could SO be a troll...

and carlisle (note the correct spelling) makes, brands, and sub contracts tires from the GLOBAL market...

Carlisle (manufacturer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

http://www.carlisle.com/about/company_profile.html
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Like you, I’ve perused the tire sub-forum before as well. The problem is that there is a lot of information in there. A lot of information! I’m thinkin’ of a thread that explains things without the interjection of a bunch of useless opinionated stuff. You know, no bashin’, just the facts, Ma’am.

That particular sticky has good stuff in there, but getting to the meat of it is like trying to see thru Dr. Mudd’s medical kit. It isn’t very transparent. As far as lookin’ it up across the Web, that’s certainly doable. But I don’t want to wade thru “state tire fees” or the correct size “to fit my Porsche”, etc. You can find most anything on the Web. But why not try to put together the basics on this forum, that’s why we’re here, isn’t it? In other words, keep it basic, so simpletons like me can understand it, and put it all in one place.

Just thinkin’ out loud.

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Just thinkin’ out loud.

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thinkin' out loud is where it's at. In my book. Now go use the search function. Just kidding...
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...I’m thinkin’ of a thread that explains things without the interjection of a bunch of useless opinionated stuff...why not try to put together the basics on this forum...Just thinkin’ out loud...
oh i get the basic idea....

but there are only a FEW threads here that don't get 'interjected with a bunch of useless opinionated stuff'...

not counting the personalized rehab/project threads.

i can think of one related to trailering gear...

so this tire thread would have to be closed after creation or cleaned regularly;

which mod wants to do THAT?

there could b a sticky like you've suggested for virtually every topic...

isn't there a cubby hole now for 'articles'?

a trailer tire article might be the ticket, for who ever wants to write it.

many of the tire experts here don't understand or can't agree on the simplest things...

like air pressures, ratings or what round is....

there are some wonderful single posts on tires here...

but my suggestion of the tire rack tech section is because it does answer your basic questions

like what's an lt, st or run flat tire; there are simple pages on sidewall bulges, belt separation, air pressures, wear, and so on...

ALL without useless opinionated stuff.

just typing out loud...

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oh i get the basic idea....
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there could b a sticky like you've suggested for virtually every topic...
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just typing out loud...

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Sure, why not? If'n ya just want basic information, why is it that ya have to wade thru all the bashin' just to get to the meat of it? It's the K.I.S.S principle carried to it's logical extension.

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