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02-07-2007, 08:18 AM
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Trailer Tire Rotation
On a tandem axle Airstream, what is the wisdom on tire rotation?
Do it; don't do it?
Order of rotation, right rear to left front, etc.?
How often to rotate?
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02-07-2007, 08:45 AM
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I've never rotated only because my tires are replaced due to age, not wear pattern. Unless you are a full timer on the road a lot, my guess is that rotation would provide little benefit other than give you some exercise and experience in changing tires.
Jack
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02-07-2007, 08:49 AM
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Dewey
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If your running gear (tire, wheel and brake drum) was balance, rotation would mess that up. My tires rotate when I tow my trailer.
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02-07-2007, 08:53 AM
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And that is from a man that should be at the top of everyone's list!! Thanks Richard
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02-07-2007, 11:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
If your running gear (tire, wheel and brake drum) was balance, rotation would mess that up. My tires rotate when I tow my trailer.
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To clarify, rotating tires that are balanced to the trailer would mess up that balancing. Off vehicle tire/wheel balancing is not an issue. (And there is debate as to which is a better balancing)
And to throw my opinion in the mix, the forces on trailer tires are much less than on towing vehicle tires. Trailer tires/wheels have no power applied and do not turn like front wheels and tires on a towing vehicle. (Especially on a single axle trailer) So the stresses on the tire to ground contact are much less. Trailer tires are just supporting the weight and rolling.
On a multi axle trailer that does a lot of sharp turns, those tires do drag around a corner. So rotation may be a wise thing. However as pointed out above, for other than a full timer, tires are usually replaced due to time not usage. So to pursue tire rotation to extend the life of the tread of the tires doesn't really accomplish much. If one were to replace the tires with 75% tread left or with 50% tread left, what's the point? There is still useable tread left and the tire still shows signs of cracking or other conditions that require replacement to avoid a blow out.
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02-07-2007, 01:53 PM
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Always Airstreaming!
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Actually, we usually replace our tires when they get dirty! Sorry, couldn't help myself. Tire rotation is something that never occured to us on our AS. Right now we have over 11K on the tires and I do check them before every trip or tow. In the middle of our trip last year I noticed one tire, rear curbside, was wearing differently than the others. When I got to JC I had them check the axel alignment and sure enough that was out. I don't think rotating is needed as mentioned above, they go round right? I would suggest just doing what we do and that is never take the tires for granted and always check them and take note of their wear, inflation and sidewall condition.
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02-07-2007, 02:05 PM
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Age
Just as an added not, tires are manufactured with a compound that, after 5 years starts to degrade the rubber. So no matter how new they look, after a certain period of time they are in need of replacement.
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02-07-2007, 03:33 PM
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hi moosetags...
4 the unit in question a modern double axle safari...
a/s does suggest rotation front to back on the same side...
in is covered in the owners manual.
given few folks have a perfectly level trailer while towing, and the impact/hits leading tires take,
wear could be different front2rear, so rotation might help.
if the trailer is unevenly loaded side2side....move stuff.
i rotate every 8-10k miles on the same side....
bearing/brake inspections or service would be the best opportunity for rotation...
no modern airstream has 'on the hub' balancing from the factory.
cheers
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05-01-2015, 06:31 PM
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This is the most fun I've had reading forum posts in the past week...so much lighter than the guys arguing about TV capacities and size. I'm getting ready to rotate my tires too....from storage to my front yard
JCW
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05-02-2015, 05:47 AM
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First, the primary purpose of tire rotation is to minimize the front to rear wear differences. In FWD vehicles, the front wear much more rapidly than the rear. On RWD, the fronts tend to wear on the shoulders and the rears in the center. I think it is obvious why you would want to perform regular rotations on motorized vehicles.
I never understood why the front to rear only (no cross) rotation patterns. In the early days of steel belted radial tires, there was a problem with the rubber separating from the steel. The proposed fix was to do rotations ONLY front to rear to maintain the rolling direction. HOWEVER, this did not take into account that tires are stressed in both directions - when they brake and when they accelerate. I think the whole idea was ludicrous.
The good news is that those days are long gone and one doesn't have to worry about cross rotation causes issues. On the other hand, it is the front to rear portion of the rotation pattern that is important. Side to side is a nicety so a tire would see all wheel positions.
However, trailer tires don't have significant wear differences - either front to rear or side to side. (unless there is another issue, of course). So I don't think there is any reason to rotate trailer tires.
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05-02-2015, 06:50 AM
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Lin
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Many rotate st tires off the trailer.
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05-02-2015, 09:10 AM
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2015 27' Flying Cloud
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I didn't think you needed to rotate the tires on a tandem axle trailer. In fact, the tire dealer said they never do. But after six years of towing my AS all over the US, I have found that rotation does extend the life of the tires in the sense the wear is more even. What happens in my case is the rear tires wear faster than the fronts due to more scrubbing in turns. So now I rotate them about every 5K. I'm fortunate that my F250 keeps track of the mileage of each trailer I use.
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