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Old 08-22-2015, 09:41 AM   #85
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To be called and advertised as a "snow tire" there are some minimum performance standards that must be met. Hence the snowflake symbol.

"All-Season" term was introduced 35 - 40 years ago as at that time the bias tires were either summer tires or real snow tires but the then new radial construction and tread designs allowed much better performance in all but deep snow so people no longer needed to change to snow tires in the winter.
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Old 08-22-2015, 09:57 AM   #86
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Put on the spare.
Here's a picture of the Swollen-up-athon of Puff-up-athon:
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Marathon is a good name- good for 26 miles-
I've had Carlisles do the same thing.
No more ST tires for me.
We have a fleet of 14,000# GVW trailers at work- with 16" LT tires-
Oh yeah, I'm getting new lug nuts, too. These cheesy chrome covered ones are terrible- the cover moves around loosely on the nut even when the nut is tight-
It is hard to get a lug wrench on them if they're already distorted/bent out of shape.
Shame on you, Airstream, for putting such garbage on a $94,000 MSRP "top of the line" travel trailer-


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Old 08-23-2015, 07:25 AM   #87
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m.hony,

What you have in the photos is called an indentation. It is the place where the body ply fabric is overlapped. EVERY tire has at least one for every body ply (the number listed under "sidewall plies") - sometimes more. They range from barely perceivable to much, much worse than in your photos.

It is NOT a safety issue so long as they are indentations, and even if they are bulges, it is a matter of degree.

As a check, go to any of your other vehicles and look for them.
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Old 08-23-2015, 08:04 AM   #88
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You guys are scaring me, my marathons have 17000 mile on them now, and they still feel good running my hand over them, maybe 1/4 worn....knock on wood they are going on a 3500 mile trip in Sept......
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m.hony,

What you have in the photos is called an indentation. It is the place where the body ply fabric is overlapped. EVERY tire has at least one for every body ply (the number listed under "sidewall plies") - sometimes more. They range from barely perceivable to much, much worse than in your photos.

It is NOT a safety issue so long as they are indentations, and even if they are bulges, it is a matter of degree.

As a check, go to any of your other vehicles and look for them.
As a tire design & quality engineer I will attest that this a correct, fact based, description of the cosmetic condition seen in the 2nd picture.
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m.hony,

What you have in the photos is called an indentation. It is the place where the body ply fabric is overlapped. EVERY tire has at least one for every body ply (the number listed under "sidewall plies") - sometimes more. They range from barely perceivable to much, much worse than in your photos.

It is NOT a safety issue so long as they are indentations, and even if they are bulges, it is a matter of degree.

As a check, go to any of your other vehicles and look for them.

Look again closely. That is not what I'm talking about. I am talking about hoe across the tread, which should normally be relatively flat, it is all pooched out, distended, rounded, bloated, swollen.
I know those indentations on the sidewalls are normal and all tires have them.
I can find no LT tires in that size.
I guess it's 16" wheels and tires.


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As a tire design & quality engineer I will attest that this a correct, fact based, description of the cosmetic condition seen in the 2nd picture.

Again, I am not talking about the indentations.


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How the tire tread should look:
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Looks like my quest is for Sendel wheels.
What is the model of Sendel wheel that comes on new Eddie Bauers and Classics? T03? T06?


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Look again closely. That is not what I'm talking about. I am talking about hoe across the tread, which should normally be relatively flat, it is all pooched out, distended, rounded, bloated, swollen.
I know those indentations on the sidewalls are normal and all tires have them.
I can find no LT tires in that size.
I guess it's 16" wheels and tires.

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Sorry. It wasn't clear from the first 2 photos, but your followup photos and further descriptions helped clear that up.

What the second set of photos show is very likely a belt leaving belt separation - commonly called a tread separation. In this case, it looks like there is a cap ply in the tire, which is why it is bulged out and distorted, rather than havinf the belt (and the tread on top of the belt) detached.
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16" Sendel T03 and LT tires will happen soon-


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All I could envision was damage to my wheel well and trailer skin.
No more ST tires for me. I've had Carlisles do the same thing. Apparently, the tires can't hold to the weight, heat, speed, etc., even though I tow at 60-65 mph with 50-60 psi. I think I've done my part/done the best I could. These tires are just inferior junk.


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Tire seperation.

Hi, while on my Alaska trip, I had two seven year old Canadian Marathons separate exactly like your's did. I never had any problems with my Chinese Marathons. These tires are not enough to carry a 30'er. You will be happy with your new tires and wheels.
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! TIRED OF TIRE SEARCH- recalls/complaints

I had two E rated Maxxis ST's on the front axle of my Classic do the same thing. I just returned from a 200 mile drive, cold pressure on the tires were 80 psi checked 3 days earlier. I backed into the driveway when I got home and noticed that my wheel locks wouldn't open between the tires. I was really lucky I caught them here at home.Click image for larger version

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