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Old 12-01-2007, 01:39 PM   #1
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Were do I look for the proper tire pressure on my new 23D Signature rig? And what monitor would you recommend me?
Saw a pressurepro for about $399, but I think that is too much and we only use the trailer once a month. Is there a visual monitor that can only be screwed in?
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:53 PM   #2
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Hello Adotutu -- Welcome to the Forums! A new rig probably has Marathon tires. Both the maximum 65 pound air pressure and maximum 65 mph speed limit should be stamped on the sidewalls. There are options for going below 65 pound inflation but you do need to use 65 pounds for running either near the trailer GVWR or in hot temperatures -- I use 65 pounds all the time. I just use a standard pocket 0-100 pound tire gauge from the auto supply store. You shouldn't be losing any air for a good long while. Be sure to plan on replacing your tires after 5 years -- the rubber loses reliability, is potentially terrible in heat, and a shredded tire will really tear up a wheel well.
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:10 PM   #3
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Adotutu,

Any of the screw-on visual tire pressure monitors cause more trouble than they are worth, IMHO! They often leak and then cause the indictor to show red, or whatever color they display, and you never really know if your tire is leaking or the TPM is!

I had them on one of my cars and a couple of tires went low, so I checked the monitor connection with bubble solution........found that theywere both leaking. NOT WORTH THE $$$$$!!!

And speaking of $$$$$$, if you think investing in a real tire pressure monitoring system is too expensive, wait 'till you see how much damage a flat tire spinning around on a rim will cause. The $395 will seem like chump change when you have to pay several thousand $$$$$ to have the damage fixed.

Penny wise........dollar foolish!
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:13 PM   #4
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Hi Adotutu,

Check the street side front of your trailer. Mine has a sticker similar to a car that contains the tire pressure information. Our 2004 did not have that sticker.

On edit: I did buy a PressurePro system for my truck and trailer. I got to test it the last time I took the trailer to Arkansas and I'd say it's worth the money.
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:03 PM   #5
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Hi:
Were do I look for the proper tire pressure on my new 23D Signature rig? And what monitor would you recommend me?
Saw a pressurepro for about $399, but I think that is too much and we only use the trailer once a month. Is there a visual monitor that can only be screwed in?
Thank you,

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If you can't find the tire pressure on a label street side or on the tires themselves, look in the owner's manual...it should be there as well.

The Pressure Pros seem to be the tire pressure monitor system of choice...the visual ones aren't that great from what I've learned in researching TPMSystems for our Bambi...

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Old 12-03-2007, 06:29 AM   #6
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If you can't find the tire pressure on a label street side or on the tires themselves, look in the owner's manual...it should be there as well.

The Pressure Pros seem to be the tire pressure monitor system of choice...the visual ones aren't that great from what I've learned in researching TPMSystems for our Bambi...

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TB,

You will soon have another system along with the Pressure Pro to choose from: one that does not need to be removed to change the tire pressure, one that not only gives you a low tire warning, but tells you if the pressure is too high, if you have a slow leak in that tire, and the best part........what the temperature if the tire is.

I'm completing the beta testing on this system, and should have my final results in a week or so...........................STAY TUNED!
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Old 12-03-2007, 06:35 AM   #7
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There are two problem with the pressure pro as I see it. The sending nits are expensive $50/per tire. that $400 to outfit my truck and trailer. They mount to the valve stem and are easily stolen or vandalized.
I would prefer one that straps to the inside on the rim.
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:32 AM   #8
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I would prefer one that straps to the inside on the rim.
Our 345 had that system. Problem is that when the batteries went dead you had to remove the tires to replace them. Then when they did they damaged them in the process. Also, there is no way to tell if they are dead.

My Explorer has a system built into the valve stems that really works. Hard to steal too as they are the actual valve stem. You would have to damage them to steal them.

When the weather turned cold last week they advised me that my tire pressure was too low. I checked and all four tires were down to 20 lbs. Inflated to proper pressure and the warning quit. Kool!!!
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:15 AM   #9
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Our 345 had that system. Problem is that when the batteries went dead you had to remove the tires to replace them. Then when they did they damaged them in the process. Also, there is no way to tell if they are dead.
well thats a bad design.
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My Explorer has a system built into the valve stems that really works. Hard to steal too as they are the actual valve stem. You would have to damage them to steal them.
Which system is this?
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:20 AM   #10
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I actually don't know. You should be able to ask a Ford Dealer though. Next time I go in I'll ask. I have no literature on it. (strange). It just appears in the Owners Handbood and works on the computer readout screen.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:22 AM   #11
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Our 345 had that system. Problem is that when the batteries went dead you had to remove the tires to replace them. Then when they did they damaged them in the process. Also, there is no way to tell if they are dead.
That system came standard from Airstream on our 345. It was called "TireTell".
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Old 12-03-2007, 04:51 PM   #12
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There are two problem with the pressure pro as I see it. The sending nits are expensive $50/per tire. that $400 to outfit my truck and trailer. They mount to the valve stem and are easily stolen or vandalized.
I would prefer one that straps to the inside on the rim.
Hey Michelle,

There is a system called 'Smart Tire' that mounts the sensor on the rim inside the tire. Theoretically, it is a good system but if you think the PP is expensive, the ST is even more so.

Plus, if your sensor goes wacky (as they do quite often) you have to take the rim off and bring it to a servicing dealer, remove the tire, remove the sensor and replace all again. I have seen this done on large diesel MoHos and when it happens, the customers sure aren't happy!

This new system is of superior quality to the PP system, very durable with a brass valve stem and DuPont Zytel sensor body, and stealing the sensor won't allow anyone to use them, as there aren't many of these systems out there in consumerland yet as they have been target marketed to the heavy truck and bus industries first.
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Old 12-03-2007, 06:59 PM   #13
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There are two problem with the pressure pro as I see it. The sending nits are expensive $50/per tire. that $400 to outfit my truck and trailer. They mount to the valve stem and are easily stolen or vandalized.
I would prefer one that straps to the inside on the rim.
Michelle,

You can get small nuts to thread onto the valve stem that back onto and lock the sensor down. They come with a small wrench to keep on your keychain or in the vehicle if you need to remove the sensor. Not perfect but would discourage the typical stupid thief.

Since I've installed mine, I've not had anyone even notice the sensors. I had to point them out in a few cases. Once they notice them, they're obvious.
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Michelle,

You can get small nuts to thread onto the valve stem that back onto and lock the sensor down. They come with a small wrench to keep on your keychain or in the vehicle if you need to remove the sensor. Not perfect but would discourage the typical stupid thief.

Since I've installed mine, I've not had anyone even notice the sensors. I had to point them out in a few cases. Once they notice them, they're obvious.
cosmotini...where do you get these lock nuts...from the folks who sell the systems?

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Old 12-03-2007, 08:52 PM   #15
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If you order from 68 Overlander you can ask him to include them free of charge. All he can do is say no.
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:06 PM   #16
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cosmotini...where do you get these lock nuts...from the folks who sell the systems?

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I got my system from 68overlander.

The lock nut kit was $10?

They are just nuts that screw all the way down on the valve stem and then you back them to the sensor once it's installed.

You could probably go to a bicycle shop and get them cheaper. Be sure to get a small wrench that fits and keep it in your vehicle. A wrench comes with the kit I got.
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Thanks for the tips, Dennis and Mark!

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So what you are telling me is all the systems that we are talking about are prone to problems.

So which ones work?
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Realizing that anything mechanical or electrical may be prone to problems, and that there will invariably be something that comes along that is better, I have no regrets with the PressurePro system. It works as advertised, and does everything I expected.
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thanks to all. I put Santa on notice for the pressurepro... God bless..
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