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Old 04-18-2007, 04:40 PM   #1
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Tire failures vs trailer size

(Apologies in advance if someone knows of a thread on this topic - I tried browsing and didn't come up with anything)

As I've been looking at information about GVWRs and GAWRs I've come to realize that different Airstreams have vastly different loads on their tires.

...............GVWR...GAWR.#As..max tire load..tire load - GVWR
US 16" Bambi...3500...3500..1...1870*2=3740....240 or 120/tire
Can 16" Bambi..4300...4300..1...2540*2=5080....780 or 390/tire
19' CCD........4500...4300..1..................500 or 290/tire
20' Safari.....5000...5000..1...................80 or 40/tire
23' Safari.....5600...5600..2......*4=10160...4560 or 1140/tire
25' Safari.....7300...7000..2.................2860 or 715/tire
30' Classic...10300..10000..2..................160 or 40/tire
34" Classic...11500..11400..3......*6=15240...3740 or 623/tire


I was wondering if anyone out there had seen anything tracking tire failures vs trailer size?
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:27 PM   #2
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I was wondering if anyone out there had seen anything tracking tire failures vs trailer size?
tracking (collecting) yes...

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interpreting, i dunno...

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oh, there are some members with a passing interest in the issue...

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Old 04-18-2007, 06:56 PM   #3
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Certainly the more highly loaded the tire, the more likely it is to experience a failure. A huge danger is running underinflated. That is aggrivated by excessive weight and speed.

I'm a believer in overkill. Get tires that can handle way more than you put on them, and minimize your troubles.
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As I've been looking at information about GVWRs and GAWRs I've come to realize that different Airstreams have vastly different loads on their tires.

I was wondering if anyone out there had seen anything tracking tire failures vs trailer size?
I don't know the answer to that however, I can tell you that, through the years, Airstream did try to match the tire ratings (C, D, etc) to the size/weight of the trailer. Unfortunately, Airstream was using numbers in a perfect world, not thinking of the many factors that might not be in that perfect equation. Factors that come to mind are uncared for tires, wrong air pressures, overweight, unlevel attitude front to back, etc. From what I have witnessed, IMHO,we are more of the problem than trailer size vs failures.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:52 PM   #7
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As I said in a earlier post, I believe that when the ST tires first came out they were what they were supposed to be.
Saying that, enter greed and EPA requirements and chemicals that the manufacturers could not use anymore, the durability of the tires suffered.
So what do we do?
55mph or go to more capable tires.
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Ditto.....

Ditto the two words.....Pressure Pros

Then.....Centramatics

Think.....Slow down

Add.....Proper inflation

Good luck with your research and Happy Trails
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No but I found what I was looking for.
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