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Old 10-27-2010, 06:50 PM   #15
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Brian,

Do you have the optional signal booster or does the system work on your 30' without?
I use the Hawks Head system with a classic 31. The monitor is on the dash of Dodge 2500 quad cab short bed.

No problem with reception without the booster.

I monitor the truck tires and both spares as well as the trailer tires.

The sensors are quite accurate. they all read well within 1 PSI of each other and my quality digital guage.

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Old 10-27-2010, 07:17 PM   #16
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Brian,

Do you have the optional signal booster or does the system work on your 30' without?
I did buy the booster - might have gotten by without it, but it was cheap enough and I wanted to do all possible to ensure a strong signal connection under all conditions- especially when the sensor batteries are no longer brand new.

I've never tried it without the booster operating. I bought the version that just uses a couple of batteries - AA or AAA I forget. I just put the batteries in and put the booster in the front overhead cupboard of the trailer above the sofa.


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Old 10-27-2010, 07:42 PM   #17
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But which is better (if you could call it better)? The valve stem screw on type or the one that goes in the tire? Why did the owners of the systems choose one over the other?
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:00 PM   #18
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I don't know but for me, combining the new TPMS with a new set of tires swayed my selection of internal. The shop mounted them N/C and balanced the wheel and tire from the lug holes, not the center hole of the wheel.

I don't have the data, but an internal unit I bet would be better at picking up a truer temp reading than external.

TPMS rookie, but a believer in the ability of TPMS to warn you in advance. Now this is unproven, but that's my view. When you watch the cycling monitor and it shows a uniform tire PSI increase while driving and you can check internal tire temp with a function selection and have Lo/HI and TEMP warnings, it's all good.
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:02 PM   #19
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But which is better (if you could call it better)? The valve stem screw on type or the one that goes in the tire? Why did the owners of the systems choose one over the other?
You may find that it doesn't matter too much which system you choose (internal sensor or external sensor). Either one will do the job that we are asking it to do.

You will also get many opinions on which system is better, and why. There are advantages and disadvantages associated with each type of system. For most of us, it is not going to matter that much which system we purchase.
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Old 10-27-2010, 08:19 PM   #20
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That is exactly what I looking for. Different opinions from the owners about both the sensor placement and the name brand of the unit. From this information I get a wide variety of information from the end user of the TPMS not just the sales information from a person wanting to sell me their product. If you could - chime in with name brand/model and type of sensor (internal or external) and if you want - positives/negatives about the product. I do not want cost of unit. This way I look at the unit without the price getting in the way from the beginning. It will have an influence in the end but I do not want to skip over a unit just because of the price.

I hope this is OK with the moderators. I do not want to step on anyones toes (so to speak).
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I chose Dill, internal monitors. I am using the included external cab mount magnetic base antenna, but I will try the display pigtail antenna next time out. I only have two trips on my system.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:30 AM   #22
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nickmeloy is right on. A TPMS is piece of mind after you get on the road. You just flat don't notice a change in handling if a tire starts to deflate until the damage is done. Here's the sad result, which might have been avoided by a TPMS. My Doran 360RV seems to fill the bill. A small complaint is mounting it in the cab. I hate it on the visor but can't find a good alternative. I do not need an amplifier to get a signal. Metal valve stems are essential, I'd say. -- John
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That is exactly what I looking for. Different opinions from the owners about both the sensor placement and the name brand of the unit. From this information I get a wide variety of information from the end user of the TPMS not just the sales information from a person wanting to sell me their product. If you could - chime in with name brand/model and type of sensor (internal or external) and if you want - positives/negatives about the product. I do not want cost of unit. This way I look at the unit without the price getting in the way from the beginning. It will have an influence in the end but I do not want to skip over a unit just because of the price.

I hope this is OK with the moderators. I do not want to step on anyones toes (so to speak).
I will be installing a Dill TPMS, p/n 1504, for trailer use. It is an internal sensor unit that provides temperature and pressure monitoring capability. My engineering background biases me toward the internal sensor unit, as I feel that I will get better temperature sensing to detect insipient wheel bearing failure (Nev-R-Lube sealed bearings). Either type should handle pressure loss issues.
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I wish to thank everyone with their input. I am gong to install a TPMS with the external sensors (metal valve stems). I think the "being able to change out the battery every year myself" instead of the internal sensor (even though they are supposed to have a 5 year life) is my choice. Also, I can move them from TV to TV and TT to TT without going to the tire shop.
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Old 11-02-2010, 10:54 AM   #25
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Balance?

I will be replacing tires this spring as well and will look into the external type. I do have a question. Won't the addition of the sensor on the valve stem throw the tires out of balance? Should I get the sensors and take them to the tire shop and have them balance the tires with the sensors in place or does it matter? Logic tells me that adding a weight, even a small one, toward the outer edge will influence the balance.

What say you?
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I wish to thank everyone with their input. I am gong to install a TPMS with the external sensors (metal valve stems). I think the "being able to change out the battery every year myself" instead of the internal sensor (even though they are supposed to have a 5 year life) is my choice. Also, I can move them from TV to TV and TT to TT without going to the tire shop.
One other anecdote to support your decision:

I had two sensors go bad during the warranty period.

One would lock up on some random reading and refuse to change until I removed and reinserted the battery.

The other just suddenly started reading 15 pounds low.

Both were replaced without question.

However I am sure glad that I didn't have to remove the tire to troubleshoot them.

The flip side is that the malfunctions may have been caused by their exposure to the highway elements. I doubt that however.

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I will be replacing tires this spring as well and will look into the external type. I do have a question. Won't the addition of the sensor on the valve stem throw the tires out of balance? Should I get the sensors and take them to the tire shop and have them balance the tires with the sensors in place or does it matter? Logic tells me that adding a weight, even a small one, toward the outer edge will influence the balance.

What say you?
The ones I have seem extremely lightweight and I wouldn't think it should have much impact but in theory I guess you are correct.

I have centramatic dynamic wheel balancers installed and I suppose they should automatically compensate.

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I am going to install the sensors at the same time I purchase the new wheels and tires. I think I would have a tire shop look at the balancing after replacing them on one of the tires to see what type of change there is. But, I also agree with Brian - If you have the dynamic wheel balancers - they should automatically compensate.
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