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Old 04-28-2012, 03:01 PM   #113
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Michelin LTX M/S (LT225/75R 16 E)

Bud,

They are indeed Michelin LTX M/S (LT225/75R 16 E) tires.

The Wheels are Tredit, a tire and wheel company in Indiana that Airstream gets supplies from. Make sure they are rated for Load Range E tires and have 0˚ offset.

Here is a link to the model I bought:

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The right size is the 16x6.

Those tires are $241.36 each + mounting.
The tredit rims are $123.03 each including the center caps and lug nuts.

I bought 5 tires and a steel rim in the same style for the spare.
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Old 04-28-2012, 04:25 PM   #114
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16" Wheels and Michelin Tires

I purchased my 16" Sendel wheels from Performancetireplus.com . They are the same as the Tredit wheels. Current price (4/28/12) is $112.00. Performance carries all of the Airstream wheels including the Eddie Bauer and new Flying Cloud wheels. Shipping was fast, I had my wheels in 4 days. Do a web search for promotional coupons before ordering, you might get lucky and get a discount.

I bought 16" LTX MS Michelin tires for $188.00 plus tax mounted, balanced and installed from a local tire shop. The Michelins have performed well and hold the air pressure. I found myself adding air to the GYM's every 2 to 3 days.
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:40 AM   #115
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Well, in the end you pay your money and you take your chances, I suppose. For now I'm going to go easy on my GYM's, but based upon good reports from those who have so chosen, I'll switch to 16" Tredit T-02 wheels and Michelin LTX M/S (#25516) tires as soon as my GYM's need replacement.
This is exactly what we got. Liked the T02 better than the 'split-fork' style.
So far, so good.. only have about 1,000 miles on 'em
I think the real test will be Arches/Bryce/Zion trip this summer

Here's the OEM on left, and T02. Looks so much larger, but is only 1.1" larger in diameter.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:09 PM   #116
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Good plan, but are these the OEM GYMs. If so, they are approaching their 5 year life span (by many accounts). Watch them closely.
Will do, but actually the GYM's I have on the trailer were manufactured in 2010, per the AS dealer where we bought the trailer and the date codes on all four tires.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:21 PM   #117
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This is exactly what we got. Liked the T02 better than the 'split-fork' style.
So far, so good.. only have about 1,000 miles on 'em
I think the real test will be Arches/Bryce/Zion trip this summer

Here's the OEM on left, and T02. Looks so much larger, but is only 1.1" larger in diameter.
Beautiful! Nice comparison to the original....thanks.
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Old 05-06-2012, 06:27 PM   #118
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And here they are rolling...
Please excuse the dirty trailer, I scaled before washing and waxing
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Old 05-27-2012, 09:12 AM   #119
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235 75 15 MIchelin ltx m/s2

Why not stay with the 15 inch tires and go with a 235 75 15 michelin m/s2. I do see another site where this is discussed. I am just in kind of delimina right now. Had a Marathon tire blow. Tire was 5 years old so need to change all tires. The m/s2 carries a weight rating of 2200 lbs. I have a 96 25ft excella. Would not these tires be good, instead of going to the added expense of new wheels and the Lt 225 75R 16 E rated tire?

Just need to do something in the next couple of days. marathon did not blow. Tread peeled off. Tire still had 50 lbs pressure.

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Old 08-28-2012, 10:10 AM   #120
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We changed to 16" Michelin LTX tires a couple of years ago and are very happy with them. We now have something like 24,000 miles on them and they are wearing much better than the Marathons did. I have been running 68 lbs. in them, but have increased it to 72 as the edges were wearing slightly faster than the centers. The Marathons lost air despite changing valve stems. The Michelins do not lose air.

We got the same wheels Moosetags did. They come from Tredit, a tire and wheel company in Indiana that Airstream gets supplies from. They are not the only company that has similar wheels. Just make sure they are rated for Load Range E tires and have 0˚ offset.

It is difficult to find a good LT tire in 15" for the size tire Airstream has been using in recent years, so we went to 16" wheels after measuring the space available about 100 times. We wanted Michelins because we have always had good experiences with them and they ride smoother than many other tires.

We got 5 new wheels, all the same, and rotate the spare around and will thus get more miles out of the set of 5 wheels and tires. The tire carrier has steel holders around it that can be bent outward to fit the 16" tire, but we carry it in the truck bed as it is easier to get in and out and easier to check air pressure.

Some people use the Michelin Rib tire. This is a tire designed for commercial trucks and the carcass will last a very long time as the tire is meant to be retreaded. It has steel cord in the sidewalls and appears to be a very firm tire, perhaps too much so. I expect the carcass will last well over 100,000 miles and seems like overkill to me. The firmness of the sidewalls may make it harder to back up at extreme angles because of the inability of the tire to bend sideways until it skips. The LTX looked like the best deal—it should last 50,000 miles or more and we will probably get to that in 5 years of use when it is time to get new tires anyway.

ST tires are not speed rated. It is suggested not to go more than 65 mph with them, and if you go faster to increase air pressure. Most speed rating is done because of gov't regs on passenger cars. I don't believe LT tires have to be speed rated, but many are and the ratings are in the 90's or higher. It's rough not to be able to tow at 120 mph, but you have to accept certain limits to have an Airstream.

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Gene- time for us to get new tires on our 23 fb se. Would you pm me with the exact tire numbers you bought? I'd like to contact your seller about getting a set after measuring our wheel well.

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Old 08-28-2012, 07:04 PM   #121
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Sandy,

We bought Michelin LTX 225/75R16 tires. They are mud and snow rated and are light truck tires. They are load range E. Now Michelin sells a passenger tire in 15" with the model name of LTX, but they are not a light truck tire. I prefer the true LT tire. We have Tredit wheels for the tires. I got the wheels through the service center at Airstream and arranged for the tires to be ready for me to pick up in Dayton at Discount Tire.

You can order wheels and tires through Discount since they have plenty of stores on the Front Range. Make sure the wheels are 0˚ offset.

Some tire stores will not mount an LT tire on a trailer, but most will. Just tell them what you want and then either bring the trailer to change the wheels and tires or pick them up and change them at home.

I measured the wheel wells and cutouts many times from different directions to make sure new 16" tires would fit. Check on the Michelin website for the exact diameter of the tire you want. Tires of a specific nominal size like 15" or 16" are all slightly different.

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Thanks, Gene. I just checked my current GYMs and they are size 14 so I am not sure about the size 16 wheel. Anyone here successfully mounted Michelin LT tires on a 23 SE AS model?

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Sandy, there is a passenger version of the Michelin LTX in 15". I'd prefer an LT, but so far as I know they don't make that version anymore.

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Thanks, Gene. I just checked my current GYMs and they are size 14 so I am not sure about the size 16 wheel. Anyone here successfully mounted Michelin LT tires on a 23 SE AS model?

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Sandy check out this thread.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f465...els-89913.html
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Or if you want a "commercial/light truck/Michelin" tire, and you want to stay with your 14" rims, this is a possibility:

Agilis | Michelin Tires
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Or if you want a "commercial/light truck/Michelin" tire, and you want to stay with your 14" rims, this is a possibility:

Agilis | Michelin Tires
Actually finding that tire might be challenging. I suspect that at retail places you have to order a set and wait for them, every place I checked lists only the 15" tire (which would probably make usable replacement for GYMs, though I think the overall diameter will be a bit smaller with the 205/65R15C size compared to the 225/75R15 STs or the 235/70R15 M/S2 LTX Michelin)
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