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Old 04-15-2008, 05:55 PM   #1
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Spare Tire holder

Hi all,

After searching for a while I have come up with nothing. This past weekend I discovered that I need to add more tongue weight to my trailer. Here is what I have

Trailer weight dry- 2940 Lbs
Tongue weight - 150 Lbs

My TV Dodge Durango, 4.7, 4 x 4

TV weight with 1/2 tank gas and me is 5200 Lbs

As far as I know the tongue weight should be about 10 to 15 percent of the trailer weight.

So here is my question. To add more weight to the tongue I wanted to add my spare tire to the undercarrige of the tongue. I can't seem to find one. Has any one else done this or have any ideas where to by it?

Thanks for the help again,
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Old 04-15-2008, 05:58 PM   #2
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I've heard of people installing it vertically between the LP tanks and the body of the trailer.
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I've seen one on a mid 60's Safari. You can put twin 30# LP tanks up front as well, and mount your battery (if you have one) under the front couch. Every little bit helps. The above will add about 60 pounds to the tongue.
Another option is to emulate Airstream when they added weight inside the tongue to increase tongue weight to some of their trailers.
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:12 PM   #4
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Quote OregonArg-I've heard of people installing it vertically between the LP tanks and the body of the trailer.


I've seen this also, if the bracket get loose it rubs on the aluminum and make a mark. Plus it hides the shine in the front.





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I've seen one on a mid 60's Safari. You can put twin 30# LP tanks up front as well, and mount your battery (if you have one) under the front couch. Every little bit helps. The above will add about 60 pounds to the tongue.
Another option is to emulate Airstream when they added weight inside the tongue to increase tongue weight to some of their trailers.

I have now 2- 5# propane tanks and a 25 gallon water tank up front. Which helps a lot. I was just trying to figure out another spot to put my spare instead of the inside of my TV since I can add more weight to the tongue.
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Where is your battery, can you move it forward? We are putting a spare tire mount under the front of our Liner, just like Airstream has. Do you have enough room between the frame rails for a spare tire?

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Where is your battery, can you move it forward? We are putting a spare tire mount under the front of our Liner, just like Airstream has. Do you have enough room between the frame rails for a spare tire?

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My batteries are located in the rear trunk. So can't not move those. I do have enough room under the front tongue area.
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Check this one out.

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Hope the web sight come through. Someone on the forum "Sneakinup" posted this 7-4-2005.
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Check this one out.

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Hope the web sight come through. Someone on the forum "Sneakinup" posted this 7-4-2005.

Thanks CJ,


Thats exactly what I'm looking for. I guess I can try to fabricate one. Wish me luck.
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Hi Robert nice to meet you at Cassini. I do not have the pics handy but I got one of the crank up tire winches off of a mimi van I think it was. It was real easy to mount and cranks the tire right up to the bottom of the sub floor. If you would like to come up and look at it PM me and we can work it out were only 1/2 hr away. Dave & Penny
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hi robert,

i believe you're looking for this.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/486235-post63.html


that's my '56 flying cloud. they are available from airstream i believe (same that they put on the new ones i've been told).

i had greg at inland rv put one on when he was doing the axle work.
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my 2001 has it mounted in the front under the body between the frames. A nice simple leaver pulls it up and a collar lockes it in place. No tools needed! A clever, simple device. It should be readily available at Airstream, and cheaper than fabrication in the long run.
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hi robert,

i believe you're looking for this.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/486235-post63.html


that's my '56 flying cloud. they are available from airstream i believe (same that they put on the new ones i've been told).

i had greg at inland rv put one on when he was doing the axle work.
David your progress on your FC is awsome. Regarding the tire holder does it go up into the underbelly or is it completely under the aluminum on the outside? I have already redid my underbelly and would hate to cut a hole to make that bracket fit.

I really don't want to fabricate one as of my welding skills are not so hot.
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David your progress on your FC is awsome. Regarding the tire holder does it go up into the underbelly or is it completely under the aluminum on the outside? I have already redid my underbelly and would hate to cut a hole to make that bracket fit.
the tire holder goes up into the underbelly and allows the tire to site inside the triangle 4" frame and just under the subfloor. it hangs down below the frame a few inches. so no i will not have a bellypan in that area. you would have to cut your belly pan to install it but i think it'd be worth it.


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I really don't want to fabricate one as of my welding skills are not so hot.
i agree about buying versus making it. the cost was less than $200 and it was once less thing i hade to make so i was happy to purchase it.
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Robert, did you see my spare location when we were at Casini? It's up under the propane tanks..half under the front of the coach. I can take a picture and post it for you. It cost me almost nothing....but then I have a lot of junk to create from.
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