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Old 02-20-2013, 09:59 AM   #1
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Sorry but I am still confused about tires

It has been interesting to read all the posts about tires but I am still confused. I have a 27' FB International CCD and I need to change all my tires before going on the road for a while this year. My current tires as installed by AS are Goodyear ST225/75 R15 Load D. I understand from many posts that I should go with LT and it looks like the Michelin LTX 235/75R15s is a favorite. When I called the store they did not have Michelin in that size that would hold that load that my trailer needs. The salesman said that is a passenger rated tire and would not work with my trailer. He said that Michelin has an LT tire 235/85/16 that would work but we would have to check to see if the increased size will work with the trailer and have to change out wheel and tires. I do not know anything about tires and I want to make sure I get domething good so that I do not have any problems on the road. I would appreciate your help
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Old 02-20-2013, 11:43 AM   #2
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We have now towed our 2005 25FB over 100,000 miles. We had really bad experiences with the OEM Goodyear 15" ST tires. We went to the Maxxis ST's and did better, but still not satisfactory. We finally decided to go 16" wheels and Michelin LT tires. That was 40,000 miles ago, and it has worked our great.

Our only regret has been that we did not go to the 16" Michelins at the start.

Keep in mind that our experience is based upon our heavy and consistent use of our Airstream. If you are the type of Airstreamer who pulls the trailer 60 miles to the lake three times a year, you probably don't need to go to this expense.

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Old 02-20-2013, 12:00 PM   #3
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We bit the bullet last summer and went to 16s and Michelins, haven't had a problem since.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:13 PM   #4
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Upgrade to 16" Wheels and Michelins on 27FB

We have a 2008 27FB Safari that we upgraded to 16" wheels and Michelins in the fall of 2011 after purchasing the trailer. We put new Michelin LTX MS 225/75 R16 Load Range E on our 2008 Safari, replacing the original Goodyear Marathons and 15" wheels. Cost installed was $188 per tire plus sales tax tax and NC 2% scrap tire tax. Installation at an local independent tire shop included mounting on the new rims, computer balancing, and mounting on the trailer. Total cost of the 16" LTX MS tires was $1022.25 for five. Unfortunately the tire shop couldn't adjust the Airstream spare tire carrier to fit the new 16" spare so I had the carrier adjusted at Jackson Center when I had some other repair work performed in early 2012.

For aluminum wheels I purchased 5 Sendel T03 66655SM 16" zero offset rims for $112 each or $560 for 5. These are like the Eddie Bauer wheels except they are silver machined instead of black machined. I bought them from Performanceplustire.com who delivered them to my door in 4 days with free shipping.

Total for the tire and wheel changeover from 15" GYM to Michelin LTX 16" was $1582.25. I sold my 5 old 15" wheels and tires locally for $400, about a week after listing them on Airforums classifieds, reducing my wheel and tire upgrade cost to $1182.25 or $235.50 per wheel (5 wheels).

Note we bought the MS tire not the MS/2 due to the extremely positive experience we've had with the MS on my wife's 14 year old SUV (we tow with a newer pickup with 20" Michelin AT). We now have over 5000 miles on the new Airstream tires with 16" wheels and we've been very happy. The pressure stays constant under load. We run at 75 pounds cold.

There should be enough clearance on your 27FB for this upgrade. You may need to make some minor hitch adjustments after installing the larger wheels and tires.
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Old 02-20-2013, 12:37 PM   #5
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Yes, the Michlen LTX 15" tires that many reccomend are a P labeled tire. They do take up to 50 psi. I use them on my 25' trailer and have been pleased with them. I would not use them on a 27'. Airstream did, and maybe still does, sell 16" wheels with the Michlen trailer tires mounted. Around $350 each. I think they pretty much fit most Airstreams that came with the 15" wheels. I think they are an 80 psi tire so you have to decide how much pressure to run in them. A e-mail to Airstream service should get a reply as to if they will fit. They had 6 of the 16" wheels and tires in the vendor booth at the Sarasota rally last week.
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It has been interesting to read all the posts about tires but I am still confused. I have a 27' FB International CCD and I need to change all my tires before going on the road for a while this year. My current tires as installed by AS are Goodyear ST225/75 R15 Load D. I understand from many posts that I should go with LT and it looks like the Michelin LTX 235/75R15s is a favorite. When I called the store they did not have Michelin in that size that would hold that load that my trailer needs. The salesman said that is a passenger rated tire and would not work with my trailer. He said that Michelin has an LT tire 235/85/16 that would work but we would have to check to see if the increased size will work with the trailer and have to change out wheel and tires. I do not know anything about tires and I want to make sure I get domething good so that I do not have any problems on the road. I would appreciate your help
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If I had your trailer, I would put a set of these on.
Continental Vanco2 225/70/15 Load range D

You will lose 1/2" ground clearance, but well worth a quality tire in my opinion.
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:30 PM   #7
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Why would you not use the P labled tires on a 27'? Weight?
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Old 02-20-2013, 01:41 PM   #8
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Spend a little extra for the 16" Sendel T02 or T03 wheels, and get the Michelin tires Airstream puts on the Eddie Bauer models and say goodbye to these tire problems.

I haven't seen one disappointed Airstreamer who has taken this route.

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Spend a little extra for the 16" Sendel T02 or T03 wheels, and get the Michelin tires Airstream puts on the Eddie Bauer models and say goodbye to these tire problems.

I haven't seen one disappointed Airstreamer who has taken this route.

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Have you seen or heard of any that took the 15" route with anything but ST tires have any trouble?

I have been using the Vanco2 tires for almost 4 yrs. I have yet to read about anyone using 15" tires other than ST ones having any problems.

Seams to me that like all things, some need to go way overboard on what is really needed. I myself feel an E rated tire?? JMHO
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RLS, I have not. But the o.p. is buying new tires anyway, and headed out "on the road for awhile".

The Michelin LTX 16's are building an impressive success rate here among forum members. It's a matter of a few hundred bucks extra to have that confidence, not really way overboard. And he will have it as long as he has the Airstream.

I'm with you completely on going overboard, wasting big money to accomplish something that can be done as well with much less.

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Old 02-20-2013, 03:32 PM   #11
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Wow...this is confusing. What does the factory recomend?
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:34 PM   #12
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If you consider going to 16" wheels as I did on my Argosy 20', the BF Goodrich LT 225/75 R 16 is another very good alternative to the Michelin in the same size. Mine are E range and I run 60 psi to cary the load of the Argosy. Two years and about 10,000 miles of flawless service to date. Mine came from Costco, special order, 2 weeks.

I had a GMC motorhome, and the Goodrich LT tire was the one that most run on their GMC's as the sidewalls have a bit more flex than the Michelin, and the ride and handling were better. Cost is a bit lower also. There had been so many good reports on the Goodrich LT tire in that 225/75 R 16 size I decided to try it on my Argosy. I am happy that I did.
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Old 02-20-2013, 03:44 PM   #13
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Tirerack has these 15" trailer tires in load range E for $109.

Power King Towmax STR ST225/75R15

2,830 lbs at 80psi. Times 4 is 11,320 lbs vastly exceeding most Airstreams GVWR.
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Have you seen or heard of any that took the 15" route with anything but ST tires have any trouble?

I have been using the Vanco2 tires for almost 4 yrs. I have yet to read about anyone using 15" tires other than ST ones having any problems.

Seams to me that like all things, some need to go way overboard on what is really needed. I myself feel an E rated tire?? JMHO
I have been studying what to do when I buy my next set of tires. The Vanco2's are one the ideas I am thinking about. I too have a 25 footer. Does the 1/2" loss of height have much negative effect?
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