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06-10-2014, 12:45 PM
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Rivet Master
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Mantua
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Three years max, pushing it to 4 years according to my tire guy. St tires. Jim
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06-10-2014, 01:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
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I am sorry but by now why would anyone question a blowout if they are running Goodyear tires?
Convert to 16 in. rims and put Michelin LTs on.
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WBCCI 12156 AIR 3144 WACHUNG TAC NJ6
2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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06-10-2014, 01:58 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2004 28' International CCD
rockwall
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 129
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I have a similar size trailer as to yours. Convert to 16 inch wheels and LT Michelins and never look back. I did.
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06-10-2014, 02:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 30' Excella
Bowie
, Maryland
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 2,345
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I didn't read the entire thread, so if someone suggested this already, sorry: Check that your brake isn't hanging up on that wheel. I saw that happen once.
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1995 Airstream Classic 30' Excella 1000
2014 Ram 2500 Crew Cab with Cummins 6.7L Diesel
Sold but not forgotten: 1991 Airstream B190
Sold: 2006 F-250 6.0L Powerstroke Supercab
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06-10-2014, 02:44 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HowieE
I am sorry but by now why would anyone question a blowout if they are running Goodyear tires?
Convert to 16 in. rims and put Michelin LTs on.
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Justifying their st tires purchase?
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06-10-2014, 03:07 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 21' Globetrotter
1971 21' Globetrotter
glen carbon
, Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 66
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just replaced my goodyears of 7 years with goodyears first ones canadians no problems run 65 70 hope the chinese ones are as good
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06-10-2014, 03:11 PM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,477
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Tires should be changed out about every 4 years. If kept outdoors, covers should be applied to keep the sun (read UV) away from the tire. Proper inflation is key. Most "D" rated tires are 65psi cold and "E"s 80psi and that should be followed very closely.
Additionally a good set of these do wonders for balancing the running gear. More times than not the tires for a long time were not balanced.
Centramatic Wheel Balancer, Tire Balancers for DFW Trucks
Finally, choose your tires carefully. Yes Marathons appeared to have a higher failure rate, but keep in mind it's all relative. Marathons represent the bulk of trailer tires out there. I went with Maxxis tires for a couple of reasons. First they are a quality tire and second, there is a nylon cap holding the tread on. I bought D rated tires last go around, and this last time, I picked up their E rated tires and have been pleased with both purchases.
My initial Marathons also had no issues, but I did notice unusual sidewall bulge that I've not seen on any other trailer tires I've owned.
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06-10-2014, 03:13 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverflash
just replaced my goodyears of 7 years with goodyears first ones canadians no problems run 65 70 hope the chinese ones are as good
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I will pray for you.
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06-10-2014, 03:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Second Blow Out, Gremlins? Chinese Tires?
Are the random odds really one in sixteen..... Or are the odds actually one in four?
Think about it....
The odds were one in four the first time when "the point was set", and then one in four when you made the point. The odds of the same tire blowing is only one in four.
Any way you cut it, each time the die is rolled it is a new beginning, the history matters not.
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06-10-2014, 03:40 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 16' Sport
Route 66
, Arizona
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 162
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A fair coin is always 50/50, each and every flip. Even if it landed tails 9 out of 10 times. That tenth flip is still 50/50.
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06-10-2014, 07:33 PM
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K.C.
, Missouri
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skooter
A fair coin is always 50/50, each and every flip. Even if it landed tails 9 out of 10 times. That tenth flip is still 50/50.
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According to the 50/50 rule, when I grab a plug to stick into the 120v outlet, I should have picked it up half the time oriented correctly to go in the darned outlet. How I seem to NEVER get it right the first time ?
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06-10-2014, 08:06 PM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gmw photos
According to the 50/50 rule, when I grab a plug to stick into the 120v outlet, I should have picked it up half the time oriented correctly to go in the darned outlet. How I seem to NEVER get it right the first time ?
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When I go to plug in a two prong plug, at least 9 out of 10 times its backwards.
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06-10-2014, 10:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
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Benton
, Arkansas
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Second Blow Out, Gremlins? Chinese Tires?
True dat Carl.
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06-11-2014, 03:12 AM
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Hondo was a great cat
2005 28' International CCD
Salt Lake City
, Utah
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 311
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Since we are talking statistics, 100% of the time, I don't listen to wife and it works out anyway. Explain that one?
Called the place where I bought the tires yesterday. The guy said: "Goodyear has left a really bad taste in my mouth, I don't like the company, there is no warranty but if you bring the tire in, I will send it back to the company, they will take a month to decide and send a note back saying it was a defect".
Fortunately, I have another tire in the meantime and no big trips planned, I will keep you posted.
Thanks again all, great discussion.
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06-11-2014, 10:32 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
I'm In
, Kentucky
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skooter
A fair coin is always 50/50, each and every flip. Even if it landed tails 9 out of 10 times. That tenth flip is still 50/50.
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Murphy's law, stated mathematically:
Given a 50:50 chance that anything can go wrong, 9 times out of 10 it will.
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Rich & Yvonne
2006 Safari SE -Dora-
2004 4Runner SE 4.7L V8
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06-11-2014, 11:29 AM
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3 Rivet Member
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Hendersonville, NC
, North Carolina
Join Date: Sep 2008
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In 2009 I got bit by the I-26 gremlin. I was towing a 2002 Hi-Lo home from Camping World and the road felt really smooth so I bumped her up to 70 when the back end did a little dance. I pulled over to find the right rear tire had separated. All my bad - too fast, an old set of tires and the being on the gremlin highway.
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06-18-2014, 07:21 PM
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Hondo was a great cat
2005 28' International CCD
Salt Lake City
, Utah
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 311
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Possible Cause
Camping World in Charleston called me today, diagnosis is......
There was a broken wire from the brake controller to the left front wheel. Whenever I hit the brakes, the two left wheels braked normally, the right rear applied its brake but the right front did not.
The right wheel was braking and the left wheel was not. The technician suggested this heated the right rear tire up and shortened its life.
Sounds reasonable. Any thoughts?
Either way, they will check alignment, rotate tires and fix the broken brake wire.
I am still waiting to hear from Goodyear on whether they will replace the tire.
That's all for today update, except the AC had a big mud dauber nest that made it rattle, the cleared that up too. The South is a tough place to survive some times.
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06-18-2014, 08:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jnerges
There was a broken wire from the brake controller to the left front wheel. Whenever I hit the brakes, the two left wheels braked normally, the right rear applied its brake but the right front did not.
The right wheel was braking and the left wheel was not. The technician suggested this heated the right rear tire up and shortened its life.
Sounds reasonable. Any thoughts?
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The broken wire would have NO effect on the remaining tires, either side. Electric brakes are applied as a function of amperage applied by the brake controller. The lose of one brake would not effect the others. The most reaction one might expect would be a pulling of the trailer to the side with more functioning brake.
Join the group. Goodyear tires just fail. That is what they are know for and they are good at it.
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2004 Excursion 4x4
1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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06-18-2014, 09:01 PM
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Rivet Master
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K.C.
, Missouri
Join Date: Nov 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jnerges
Camping World in Charleston called me today, diagnosis is......
There was a broken wire from the brake controller to the left front wheel. Whenever I hit the brakes, the two left wheels braked normally, the right rear applied its brake but the right front did not.
The right wheel was braking and the left wheel was not. The technician suggested this heated the right rear tire up and shortened its life.
Sounds reasonable. Any thoughts?
Either way, they will check alignment, rotate tires and fix the broken brake wire.
I am still waiting to hear from Goodyear on whether they will replace the tire.
That's all for today update, except the AC had a big mud dauber nest that made it rattle, the cleared that up too. The South is a tough place to survive some times.
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I'm glad you titled that "possible cause". Key word there is "possible". But "not likely".
I'm with Howie on this one.
Replace them with good tires and leave those worries behind.
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06-18-2014, 09:14 PM
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#40
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
Currently Looking...
Benton
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2013
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A brake drum has to get very hot to pop a tire.
I really really doubt this is the cause, and I doubt the problem as described would induce much if any additional heat.
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