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Old 03-14-2016, 03:21 PM   #43
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I don't pretend to know why or how rivets pop in the AS trailers. That said, we had a 30' FC and towed it with an F250 Diesel crew. AS had stock 15" Good years. Lots of popped rivets regardless of roads etc. Switched to 16" and Michelin LTs - run at about 72 pounds. No popped rivets. Now have another 30' FC and tow with an F350 Diesel with 16" wheels and Michelin LT from the factory. 10,000 miles across the country and back on all kinds of roads, dirt to interstate and no popped rivets and I looked fairly often expecting some due to the one ton.
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Old 03-14-2016, 11:15 PM   #44
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A test.
A recorder (or cell phone) and a baking pan full of dry beans.. pinto or white(navy) beans... whatever.. choose your legume...

put the pan inside over the axles. a loop of duct tape to the bottom will hold it sufficiently..put the legumes in the pan, start recording, or, call a cell phone in the TV. Go to the TV and start driving... what do you hear from inside?

I did this using cell phones before and after Centramatics... and again after new axles.. still running 15" original wheels...

Centramatics helped a LOT with noise.. the axles.. well, much quieter... the legumes barely rattled...

BTW, I have ridden inside a double Horse Trailer, an inline (5th wheel) Horse Trailer and a Stock Trailer...

I recommend washing all of them well before you start...

We had some really spirited horses when they were in a trailer.. when I was on the side of them, they relaxed... obviously they wanted me to feel better...
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Old 03-24-2016, 07:00 PM   #45
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Popped Rivets from Exterior/Interior expansion?

While moving tons of wet snow with an ATV with a 48" plow you tend to think of other things. Well... I did.

When camped in the mountains when it is cool outside, I try to face our door side of the trailer towards the sunrise for a quick warmup in the morning. As the outer skin warms up, you can hear "popping" of the expansion of aluminum panels, flexing.

Could that also be causing stress on interior rivets? The exterior rivets can handle the stress more than interior pop rivets. I will have to watch this a bit closer. Sometimes the solution is not even close to what everyone seems to think.

If the rivet pops when stationary... you sure can eliminate most of the other potential causes.

Pop goes the Weasel as some say.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:59 PM   #46
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AS should offer an additional build feature. One could either select rivets that will pop out when the trailer bounces with hard tires or have the ends of the shell tear away from the floor. The buyer selects.
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Old 03-24-2016, 09:04 PM   #47
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Your problem is most likely due to sagged out axles.


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Old 03-24-2016, 09:21 PM   #48
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It's not the diesel truck, nor the LT tires or the lack of Centramatics...quite simply, the rivets pop on trailers built on Mondays and Friday's....

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Old 03-24-2016, 09:25 PM   #49
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Old 03-28-2016, 04:32 AM   #50
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Gee Ray, I thought I was describing myself !


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Old 07-03-2016, 06:37 PM   #51
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I have a question that is not so much geared toward the reason the rivets popped... but what should I do about it.

I have a 2003 22ft international. I had two exterior rivets pop last year for the first time during a 5000 mile trip from Alabama to South Dakota. Both were on the curb side and one was just above the top left corner of the door. I replaced both of them with olympic rivets, and shaved to look nice a smooth.

One year later the rivet by the door popped again. So my question is: Should I add another rivet (or two) on either side of the rivet that has failed twice to strengthen that area? From what I read hear, the door area is prone to higher stress. I appreciate the opinions and hearing the experiences that many of you have.
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Old 07-03-2016, 10:56 PM   #52
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Excess stiffness WILL pop rivets.

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Old 07-04-2016, 12:09 PM   #53
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So are you saying that, in your opinion, I should NOT add additional rivets on either side of rivet that has failed twice?
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I added two rivets on either side of the one that keeps breaking (3 times), interior doorway. I have a couple of hundred miles on them so far.
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So are you saying that, in your opinion, I should NOT add additional rivets on either side of rivet that has failed twice?

No. Not at all. I was just making an off the cuff comment. I don't think your addition of rivets will hurt anything and they will probably help.


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Old 07-04-2016, 02:21 PM   #56
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I've lost a few rivets in my closet and a rivet in the bathroom. I noticed that where my rivets popped, the neighboring rivets are spaced relatively far apart, some as far as 6" away from the closest rivet, while in other interior areas where the rivets appear secure they are placed every 2-3" apart. So I brought the trailer to Bay Area Airstream and asked them to replace the missing rivets and to add additional reinforcements to reduce the stresses on the replacement rivets. Hope that helps.
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