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Old 05-13-2016, 04:44 PM   #29
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I consider the TST purchase one of the wisest I have made. Would not hit the highway with out them. Most autos come with a tire monitor system already installed. I can see the day when they will be standard trailer equipment.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:22 PM   #30
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My first upgrade even before taking delivery of Scratch (another story for another time) last summer was to upgrade tires to 16 inch Michelin on Sendahl rims. Now with close to 10,000 miles towing, no issues. However, being ever the cautious one, just added the TST tpms after a lot of research. Easy installation and so far monitors fine from the TV. Off on another adventure Monday so will have time to evaluate the system. I went with the flow-thru system and my one concern is potential balance issues adding the slight additional weight to the rim. Any thoughts on this?
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:25 PM   #31
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I consider the TST purchase one of the wisest I have made. Would not hit the highway with out them. Most autos come with a tire monitor system already installed. I can see the day when they will be standard trailer equipment.

Agree - as should an RV-ready GPS be standard in any TV candidate, but I digress 😀

We use the TST with internal sensors. I don't know when I'm going to need those replaced but we've had it for 3 years and it still works perfectly. I love having it and knowing how the tires are reacting to heat, speed and road conditions - and I know if one blows, I'm going to know about it - hopefully before there's any serious damage...
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:26 PM   #32
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My first upgrade even before taking delivery of Scratch (another story for another time) last summer was to upgrade tires to 16 inch Michelin on Sendahl rims. Now with close to 10,000 miles towing, no issues. However, being ever the cautious one, just added the TST tpms after a lot of research. Easy installation and so far monitors fine from the TV. Off on another adventure Monday so will have time to evaluate the system. I went with the flow-thru system and my one concern is potential balance issues adding the slight additional weight to the rim. Any thoughts on this?
I had metal stems installed. The shop then rebalanced each tire with the sender installed.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:56 PM   #33
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I had a blowout on my motorhome last year and decided to buy a tire monotering system... It may be over-kill but I feel a more peace of mind knowing its there!
They say knowlage is power my 345 has two engine temp gauges, engine oil and trans temp gauge, oil pressure gauge (with low pressure light and buzzer) amp and voltage gauges, and and the mentioned tire monitoring system all 8 tires
Like I said it may seem a BIT over-kill, but picture the cockpit of plane with just a speedometer and 3 idiot lights
As for the blow out I had, it was on the outside dual, no damage to the motorhome and and was able to limp to a nearby truck stop and have the spare put on
(Afterwords I also bought a HUGE torque wrench and a 20 ton bottle jack)
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I purchased the Tire Traker one. $289. We'll see how it works out.
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I bought the Tire Tracker system in late 2015. I have a few trips with the system and it has worked flawlessly.

https://www.tiretraker.com/proddetail.php?prod=TT400-4
Did you need to use the signal booster they sell?
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There are lots of threads on this topic in the forum.

General consensus I found, succinctly put:

For single axle trailer, you will know you have a flat tire right away, due to the extreme change in driveability. A slow leak is discovered when driveability changes due to extreme loss of pressure or during a periodic tire pressure check when stopping.

On a tandem axle, the driveability may not change significantly, due to the other tire/axle, with a potential of ripping up your trailer with the flapping flat tire as you continue along unknowingly.



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Thanks. As a brand new camper new to towing etc this makes the reasons clear. I have a two axel safari. Nuff said.
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There are lots of threads on this topic in the forum.

General consensus I found, succinctly put:

For single axle trailer, you will know you have a flat tire right away, due to the extreme change in driveability. A slow leak is discovered when driveability changes due to extreme loss of pressure or during a periodic tire pressure check when stopping.

On a tandem axle, the driveability may not change significantly, due to the other tire/axle, with a potential of ripping up your trailer with the flapping flat tire as you continue along unknowingly.

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No matter, if the blowout occurs trailer damage is most probably already done. TPMS may or may not warn you of an impending failure. That's why folks who do extended travel upgrade to more reliable tires than the original GYM. TPMS adds some assurance. If travel and camping is locally you may not need either one.
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Old 05-14-2016, 02:58 PM   #38
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My experience with the GYM-15's that came on the A/S when new was not good. Many belt separations caught before damage. I don't know if a TPMS set-up would have helped??.

However, 4-5 years ago (in JC at an Alumapaloza-sp?), I bought a set of the 16" Michelins. My 2nd set of Michelins just went on last month. (Age crazing not wear.) I still monitor the tires, hubs, etc. at every stop, old habits die hard, and I would not consider returning to the GYM or any other 'ST' 15" tire. I'm am very happy with the 'LT' Michelins….There are many considerations to look into before deciding what is best for you, lots of threads & opinions here.

I'm considering a TPMS system but still haven't made up my mind yet.

IMO the investment in the tires has worked well for me. Buying a TPMS system is TBD.
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I have used the TST system for many years on both our Airstream and my 'big truck' and flatbed. It has 'saved my bacon' several times on the Airstream, and I was able to avoid a dangerous tire failure. Same thing on the semi. I highly recommend it!
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Did you need to use the signal booster they sell?
For my set up, I needed to add the Tire Traker Signal Booster. I bought the hardwire version and it sits in the battery box on one of the batteries.
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Old 05-18-2016, 11:47 AM   #41
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I have a tire monitoring system. It DID NOT HELP with the blowout we had however. I just scanned the monitor and looked away, than boom there went one of the GYM tires. Tore up the side of our Airstream.
We installed Michelins all the way around and a few months later with the new tires the TMS showed a loss of pressure in one of the new tires. I would lose 5 # and that was it. I pulled into a tire shop they checked it out without taking it of and and they couldn't find the leak. So after I got home, I took the tire of, took it the local tire shop and sure enough there was a 2" long screw in it.

Have to wonder if your failure was a Run Low Flex failure

or a Tread Separation like this

Term "Blowout" is used by many to describe any failure. TPMS will not warn of an impending Tread/Belt separation but a functioning TPMS will provide warning of air loss which is their intended purpose.

If you don't know the real root cause for the failure how do you know the action you took will prevent another failure?


RE your experience with Michelin tire. If you didn't have a TPMS and the air leak continued and you had a Run Low Flex Failure i.e. "Blowout" would you have then considered the Michelin "defective".
After all this is the logic that many seem to use.
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Have to wonder if your failure was a Run Low Flex failure

or a Tread Separation like this

Term "Blowout" is used by many to describe any failure. TPMS will not warn of an impending Tread/Belt separation but a functioning TPMS will provide warning of air loss which is their intended purpose.

If you don't know the real root cause for the failure how do you know the action you took will prevent another failure?


RE your experience with Michelin tire. If you didn't have a TPMS and the air leak continued and you had a Run Low Flex Failure i.e. "Blowout" would you have then considered the Michelin "defective".
After all this is the logic that many seem to use.
Fireman--very good points!

Our last trailer tire "failure" occurred when my wife, about to pull out of a gas station, noticed "something weird in the tire" in her side view. I hit out to check it, and it was a new 10" long bubble on the sidewall near the tread.

We check cold tire pressure every morning, and that morning was no exception. We have NEVER rubbed a sidewalk against a curb--we are both super attentive about it.

Because we caught it early, there was no damage. That tire was 6 months old and had about 6000 miles on it. The tread looked new. We checked the pressure when it was removed and the tire was not under inflated.

After the spare was put in place, we were fortunate to only be twenty minutes from Les Schwab, who replaced the tire and another one of the same young vintage that they didn't like the looks of. These wee part of a full new set of Towmarks from Schwab after we had w complete tread separation on a GYM the previous season, and another that was showing early bubble in the sidewall.

We now have a full set of Michelun's in 16" wheels, and recently added the TireMinder 66 system for peace of mind. Because our TV has duallies, it did not come with TPMS, so we have a ten sensor attempt in place.

The TireMinder has been working well, but has its own challenges because the dually valve extensions need to be under full air pressure for the sensors to work. This makes fir many potential leak points, each of which TireMinder has caught in time.

Since we replaced our original tires at 40K miles with new ones on the TV, we changed to Aneruca's Tires metal stems, and the nightmare started. Even though we carefully checked each component before installation (by submerging each tire/she'll/valve/extension/sensor in water tank), several have subsequently developed leaks after just sitting in the driveway..

After much research, I have just purchased Slrinter wheel specific metal valves which are supposed to make a better deal than the ones America's Tire has in stock. I will take my fourth trip to the tire shop tomorriw and we will start again from scratch.

So TPMS? I guess at this point I'd call it a mixed blessing. If we do get it right, it will be wonderful.

Oh--zero problems with the sensors in the Sendels/Michelins on the Airstream that are part of the same system!
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