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Old 10-22-2017, 09:59 PM   #1
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My 66 Tradewind weighs 4,800 lbs ready to camp with a tongue weight of 600 lbs. Therefore my tire loading is very low at 1,050 lbs. The dual tire maximum load for my new load range E Goodyear Endurance tires is 2,470 lbs. I am thinking about traveling without a spare due to the light loading. I plan to inflate to 80 psi. We don’t travel fast or in real hot weather. Do you think this is reasonable? What would you do?

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Old 10-22-2017, 10:11 PM   #2
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:26 PM   #3
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I think you should be OK if you keep your tires up to date and regularly check the pressures. The trailer can safely be towed at 30 mph with three tires.
Don't do what I did on our first long trip in our first AS. Out in the middle of no where in Southeast Utah, 30 miles from Cortez, NM we had a tire go flat. No sweat we had four on the ground and a spare. I installed the spare and put the flat in the trailer. About five miles later, we had another tire go flat, so you see a lot of scenery at 30 mph. As we pulled into the West side of Cortez, another tire was going flat but we saw an RV dealer and pulled in. He did not have tires but aired up my failing tire and told us where a tire store was on the East side of Cortez. Just as we pulled in to the store, two tires went flat. Fortunately, the tire store had five of the size we needed. Needless to say, I now check pressures regularly and carry a infrared heat sensor to also check the tires.
A TPMS is next on my purchase list.
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Old 10-22-2017, 10:35 PM   #4
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Old 10-23-2017, 05:25 AM   #6
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Can’t believe there is any need to discuss this. Tires can fail for a host of reasons including road hazards, curb impact, debris in road, large potholes, and vandalism.

The cost/benefit ratio favors carrying a spare IMO, by orders of magnitude.

Carry a spare!

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Old 10-23-2017, 12:02 PM   #7
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Don't leave home without it.

Even with roadside assistance I would't leave home without a spare. A lot of figuring, I'm impressed.
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Old 10-23-2017, 12:02 PM   #8
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My 66 Tradewind weighs 4,800 lbs ready to camp with a tongue weight of 600 lbs. Therefore my tire loading is very low at 1,050 lbs. The dual tire maximum load for my new load range E Goodyear Endurance tires is 2,470 lbs. I am thinking about traveling without a spare due to the light loading. I plan to inflate to 80 psi. We don’t travel fast or in real hot weather. Do you think this is reasonable? What would you do?

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TouringDan....As long as you don't leave home there is no problem not having a spare tire. Have you ever had a blowout on Rte 95 in Georgia? I did. I put on my spare and tried to locate a replacement spare tire in Georgia which required me to drive 50 miles in the opposite direction. Finding replacement tires for a trailer or your tow vehicle on a trip is not fun. I now travel with two spares for my trailer and two spares for my tow vehicle. Since I started carrying the extra spares I have not had any tire problems on the road.
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Old 10-23-2017, 12:22 PM   #10
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Ditto. Although we’ve towed fine on 3 legs when we didn’t know we had a flat, we’ve used the spare twice in 8 seasons. Although we’ve switched to Michelin 16’s and added a TPMS, I can’t imagine going anywhere without a spare.
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Two months ago I needed my spare. We have Good Sam, but it would’ve been hours to get help. We were on a remote highway where it wasn’t possible to pull off the road completely. It was getting dark. Even with the triangles out, I was glad I got my trailer off the road before nightfall. I suggest you have a spare if you have the means and are capable of changing it yourself.
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Can’t believe there is any need to discuss this. Tires can fail for a host of reasons including road hazards, curb impact, debris in road, large potholes, and vandalism.



The cost/benefit ratio favors carrying a spare IMO, by orders of magnitude.



Carry a spare!




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I thank you and others for your comments.

I am considering traveling without a spare for the following reasons:

1. Although my Tradewind has dual axles, lots of Tradewinds were built with only single axles.

2. If I have a flat tire or blowout, regardless of the cause, I can operate my Tradewind in the single axis mode and do so safely since I still have a 35% margin between the tire loading of 2,100 lbs and the maximum allowable single axle tire load of 2,830 lbs. I suspect this maybe more margin than most dual axle 30 or 31’ Airstreams have.

My plan would be, in the event of tire failure, to remove the defective tire and the front good tire from the other side, make sure that both operating tires are on the rear most axle and continue my trip until I can repair/replace the defective tire.

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My plan would be, in the event of tire failure, to remove the defective tire and the front good tire from the other side, make sure that both operating tires are on the rear most axle and continue my trip until I can repair/replace the defective tire.

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Hopefully my TPMS will let me know if I have a slow leak. I carry an air pump and a tire repair kit which includes valve cores + tool, and plugs + tools to repair a tire that is loosing air from a nail puncture etc. Often this can be done with the tire still on the vehicle. However, I also carry a spare in case of a blow out. The spare is only for emergencies because it doesn't match my Michelin tires as it is still a GY Endurance tire.
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As long as you don't leave home there is no problem not having a spare tire.
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That about covers it!

Any additional discussion about leaving home without a spare tire, is . . .

. . . well . . .

. . . not worth my time and effort IMO.

[ . . . off to look for some quotes about certain people being parted from their money . . . ]

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