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Old 05-03-2009, 09:06 PM   #15
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:32 PM   #16
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I'v been using 700/R15 Sumitomo light truck tires, load D, on my single axle Safari at 60 psi.
They are now 7 years old with many thousands of miles and look like new. I'v heard all the stories about replacing them with Chineese c**p every three years, so I'll be the test to see how long tires will last. I'v had a blowout with another brand, so I know what to expect. With a single axle you know at once that the tire has gone and get stopped before it does damage.
I have changed the axle and rode inside so I know that it runs very smooth.
I'll check in at ten years to report how they are holding up.
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re cooper tires

I got a set of Custom Plus Trailer tires two weeks ago. Lucky me, the distributor told me they were the last set available that were made in the US. He didn't say where the new ones were comming from, just that they would not be US manufactured....
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:24 AM   #18
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Here is the link to a little thread that might have some useful tire info.
Goodyear-marathon-failures

As for myself, I switched to 16 "Michelin LTX, load range D some time ago.
I suppose you are talking about tires for you TV. Our local Michelin Man cliams they don't make tires for trailers, and is quoting me on Cooper.
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Old 05-04-2009, 08:56 AM   #19
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I suppose you are talking about tires for you TV. Our local Michelin Man cliams they don't make tires for trailers, and is quoting me on Cooper.
Hi Aage,

The Goodyear marathon debate has been done to death and goes back to 2006 with over 500 posts.
As you might expect, some like um, others don't, some don't no what else to do, others blame others, you get drill.

see: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438/goodyear-marathon-failures-28293.html

I switched to 16" rims and mounted Michelin LTX load range D tires/w steel valves on my Trailer 13,000 miles ago. Many have. End of tire problems

See 15"-16" switch post.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f438/16-tires-on-a-31-sovereign-40137.html

The are other threads on this subject you can search for also.

"ST" tires just don't cut it IMHO

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PS, Mod's can we move this thread?
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:43 AM   #20
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"ST" tires just don't cut it IMHO

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Michael,

Yes, I am well aware of the tire kafuffle, and I have read most of the posts.

It strikes me that some posters have made claims that, were they engineers or actual tire industry specialists, they would have to back up with facts and support documents, in order to be able to publish the information they have posted. But since we are all amateurs, unsubstantiated claims can be made.

And some of the statements and assumptions I've read seem quite strange, indeed.

So If I understand correctly, you are using light truck tires on your TT? Have you seen any documented research that makes you feel comfortable with that decision?

Not trying to be a smart*ss, but I want to be sure that I get tires that were designed for the use that I will put them to, at a decent price, and with good national support. I can't imagine that a tire blowout would occur anyplace convenient, and even with a spare, why make it hard to find a replacement?

Also, with the litigious nature of the world today, if, God forbid, I was in an accident involving my trailer where another party was injured, and it was discovered that I had used tires not designed for use on a TT, I can imagine the lawyers gleefully rubbing their hands together.

The only tire I see that I am comfortable investing in so far is the Goodyear Marathon.

It seems to me that, as it is with many parts of our TTs, maintenance is important with tires, in fact, it is critically important for tires, regardless of the make we choose. Those posts detailing users' methods for tire care are the ones I read most carefully and on which I made many notes.
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Not trying to be a smart*ss, but I want to be sure that I get tires that were designed for the use that I will put them to, at a decent price, and with good national support. I can't imagine that a tire blowout would occur anyplace convenient, and even with a spare, why make it hard to find a replacement?
Before the advent of ST tires, LT tires were the only choice, such as 7.00x15LT.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:57 AM   #22
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Before the advent of ST tires, LT tires were the only choice, such as 7.00x15LT.
But Terry, that doesn't change the situation today: "in the day" radials were unheard of, and so, in blissful ignorance, we loved our bias tires.

Things change, especially technology. Just because something didn't exist in the past is no reason for us to ignore it now, is it?

Today we do have the choice. Why ignore what the manufacturers' research has developed, supposedly for the better?

If there is data that purports to demonstrate that the tire manufacturers are wrong, let someone show it.
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Is there a poll somewhere that we can collect data on the following:

* Tire Brand
* Quantity owned/purchased (other than spare, unless spare failed)
* Quantity that failed (other than wore out)

Seems like that would make sense to collect this, and maybe the load range, air pressure, maximum towing speed, weight of trailer/vehicle, etc.

For example:

Tire Brand: Goodyear Marathon
Quantity: 2
Quantity that failed: 1
Current mileage (or mileage at failure or replacement): 10,000 miles (failure)

Tire Brand: Maxxis
Quantity: 2
Quantity that failed: 0
Current mileage: 1,000 miles (still running)
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Aage, your Marathons will last for thousands of trouble free miles in cool Canada.
Join Phoenix and I for a little roadtrip in Arizona in July and see how long they last.
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Now that hot weather is approaching in the South and Southwest, I am interested in how many blowouts of D rated ST tires will occur.
Nearly all my Marathons and no name third world D rated ST tires (5 tires) have blown up in conditions of 100 plus air temp and sustained 65 mph driving. The Marathons are no better and no worse than the no names, they only cost more. The common thread is extremely hot weather and sustained 65 mph driving. Don't anyone scold me about low air pressure and high speed driving, it didn't happen in my case.
Please post on this thread if you have a blowout.
I am on my second year with Maxxis and Carlyse E rated tires on a 25 ft Safari, inflated to 80 pounds. In July, I will have a 1500 mile roadtrip in hotter than hell conditions. I will post on this thread if I hear the dreaded thump, thump.
So what's the point that a search on previous threads couldn't answer? This topic has got thousands of posts pro & con for whatever choice you've decided on. Am not trying to be rude but your question/statement has been discussed to death... try a little research on the forums why don't you... ?
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The only tire I see that I am comfortable investing in so far is the Goodyear Marathon.
Aage,

You make a number of very good points, and no "Smart &@# taken.

I am not an engineer, nor am I a litigation attorney, but as I quote your post above, The choice we make all comes down to what we feel comfortable with.

You feel comfortable with 15"Goodyear Marathons.
I feel comfortable with 16" Michelin LTX tires.

Look, some people feel comfortable putting a bar of lifeBoy soap under their bed sheets to relieve leg cramps, what's up with that?

People, keep in mind, we're enthusiasts here. When all is said and done, I think "feeling comfortable" is as close to real facts as we are ever going to get, and that applies to many of the subjects we Airstreamers seem so enthusiastic about.

People who's opinion I respect both on and off this forum have influenced my selection, and I can only back my selection up with" I don't feel comfortable using Goodyear Marathons ST tires, or any ST tires period. I do feel comfortable using 16"Michelin LTX tires, which I also feel comfortable using on my T.V. and felt comfortable using on my previous motorhome.

Aage, many people have had many carefree miles using Goodyear Marathons, I wish you many many miles of the same.

Michael

PS, I wouldn't feel comfortable running ST tires on my T.V. or car
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If I could get Michelin XPS Ribs in 225x75-15 LR-E (I think that's the size we have on our 19-foot Bambi), I'd buy them in a heartbeat. Is any chance they will ever make them in that size? The 16-inch equivalent won't fit in the wheel wells - DANG!

Personally, I'm glad someone refreshed this topic, as it is still a serious concern in the desert southwest. While I think the Maxxis tires I'm running now are an improvement over the Marathons, I still haven't found a permanent solution to blowouts in 110+ degree weather.

While I understand that some may think that this topic is well-worn, a lot of that info is dated; and I'd like to know what's happening right now. I don't mean to offend, but if this subject bores some, it seems the topic is obvious -- Perhaps, the few that no longer find this topic interesting could skip this message string, and leave it to the people who do.
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While I understand that some may think that this topic is well-worn, a lot of that info is dated; and I'd like to know what's happening right now. I don't mean to offend, but if this subject bores some, it seems the topic is obvious -- Perhaps, the few that no longer find this topic interesting could skip this message string, and leave it to the people who do.
The problem I have with this thread is the title. It misleads people into checking into the thread, only to find out it is the exact same thing that has been posted ad nauseum. I checked this thread based on the title, thinking there was a new problem, but lo and behold, it was the same pig, with a fresh coat of lipstick applied. Of course, at that point the people (like me) that thought it was a fresh issue let others know they were not amused by the misdirection.
I don't know about others, but now that I'm subscribed to the thread, I look in to see how many new ST tire blowouts have occurred since the thread started. So far I'm not seeing any, which is the point of my own complaint.
The problem of radial tire tread separation has been around as long as there have been radial tires, starting in 1949. After all this time, all radial tire manufacturers are aware of this tendency, and I hardly think yet another thread will cause anyone from any tire manufacturer to suddenly solve the issue.
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