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12-11-2015, 08:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
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New Federal tire rules
Wonder if there are provisions in this ruling for free batteries for the TPMS!
By SEMA Washington, D.C., Staff
The highway transportation bill signed into law by the president includes several provisions covering tires. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) is directed to issue a rule requiring independent tire sellers to register tires at the point of sale. The provision is intended to increase tire registration rates that should then assist tire manufacturers in notifying consumers in the event of a tire recall. Independent tire dealers will be required to maintain records, including the name, address and information identifying the tire purchased, and electronically transmit this information to the tire manufacturer.
The NHTSA will consider the feasibility of developing universal bar-code scanner technologies that capture the Tire Identification Number (TIN), which could then be placed in an electronic database that unites the tire numbers with the vehicle identification number (VIN). The NHTSA is required to create a website allowing the public to search for tire recalls based on the TIN. The NHTSA is also required to issue regulations establishing minimum tire performance standards for tire fuel efficiency and wet traction.
The NHTSA is required to update the tire-pressure monitoring system (TPMS) rule, Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 138, to ensure that a system installed on a new motor vehicle cannot be overridden, reset or recalibrated in a way that would no longer detect when the inflation pressure in one or more of the vehicle’s tires has fallen below a safe pressure level. The rule cannot have the effect of prohibiting indirect TPMS or the ability to reset or recalibrate when replacing tires/wheels of a different size than the original-equipment tires/wheels.
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12-11-2015, 08:45 AM
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Oh boy, more govt regs.
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12-11-2015, 08:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
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When you look at those regs, you have to know that the price of tires will be going up just to cover the admin costs without adding to the performance factor.
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12-11-2015, 07:49 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 25' Tradewind
Bloomsbury
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nip it in the bud
Call your congressman and tell them NO! We are already OVER REGULATED by the Government. We do not need this any more than half the other BS they require or mandate. I don't like my TPMS either, God, I have a gauge, own a car, maintane a car! Don't expect "mother" to remind/ do it for you. Gosh, Ive reread it, it already passed??? Who's paying for all this report/advise stuff???? More small business suffering unneeded added costs.. God I hate where this country is going!!!!!!!!!!!
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12-11-2015, 07:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 25' Tradewind
Bloomsbury
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And
I don't want a call or text- "time to rotate your tires"
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12-11-2015, 08:47 PM
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Free Range Human
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On the positive side, if your tires are registered, you stand a chance at getting notified if there's a tire recall.
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12-11-2015, 08:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
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CostCo hands me a registration paper with the proper numbers on it for me to register the new tires via mail or on-line.
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12-11-2015, 09:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
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These new regulations have some benefit and likely a lot of expense. I'm sure there are other ways to accomplish the goal of manufacturers being able to reach users of their products but if this is a new regulation, it would only be prudent to take a few more off the books otherwise, business will literally be unable to be compliant since it will take longer to read/interpret the regulations than it will to manufacture products!
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12-11-2015, 09:33 PM
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Remember, Safety Third
1973 27' Overlander
Catfish Corners
, Georgia
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Good Grief, said Charlie Brown.
I wonder if I can get get my notifications in Urdu? Maybe I should write to my "congressperson" and demand my rights?? What's next? A national oil filter registry?
More bureaucrats.
Good grief.
Jim
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12-12-2015, 10:44 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1966 24' Tradewind
2005 22' Safari
Bastrop
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drathaar
On the positive side, if your tires are registered, you stand a chance at getting notified if there's a tire recall.
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The feds care very little if your tires are recalled for whatever reason.
But you "the buyer" could very well be notified when somewhere down the line, your then worn out or blown out tires are identified as an illegally disposed of tire by some city , county or state agency .
Even if the tires are properly disposed of by you by allowing the dealer that you bought new tires from to take care of it , you will still be held responsible if the old tires wind up dumped in a field or along some back road .
This is the fate of millions of old tires every year and the government will be all to happy to get very deep into your pocket for the deeds of others.
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12-12-2015, 11:27 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 25' Flying Cloud
GILBERT
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Next toilet paper, they want to know how much you use
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12-12-2015, 01:36 PM
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Anything that improves the cycle time to notify customers of a flawed product is worth developing. Pat
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12-13-2015, 05:25 AM
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CapriRacer
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Some background info:
The current registration system is VOLUNTARY. Tire dealers are NOT required to register the tires, nor are they required to tell someone who purchased what tires. The consumer is ALSO not required to register the tires.
The only persons required to do anything is the tire manufacturer who is required to keep a database of what information they receive. That has resulted in the tire manufacturer only recording a small fraction of the owners of tires. I can't remember the value but it is on the order of 10%.
In other words, if there is a recall, only 10% of the tire owners are known. The rest have to find out about the recall some other way (the news or websites like this one).
The exception is if the tire is supplied to a vehicle manufacturer. Then more owners are known (because of the vehicle manufacturer's warranty system.)
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12-13-2015, 06:52 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' Flying Cloud
Brandenburg
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You know, with all the bitchin, moanin, and complaining about Goodyear Marathon tires (along with other brands), all the discussion of going from 14, to 15, to 16 inch tires, TPMS's of all kinds, and NOT being able to get support from either the tire dealer or manufacturer when a problem arrises, in the forums, I'd have thought that everyone would be jumping for joy that the tire sellers and manufactures could be held accountable with proof of purchase, recall notifications, and length of tire tires where on the shelf before being installed. WOW, I still think that there's room to find more reasons to find fault with a law that is a great start to protecting the consumer... Oh wait, just thought of another reason to scuttle this law, they are violating my privacy. Please feel free to add to the list of why not to embrace this law.
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12-13-2015, 08:40 AM
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2006 25' Safari FB SE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tsunami
You know, with all the bitchin, moanin, and complaining about Goodyear Marathon tires (along with other brands), all the discussion of going from 14, to 15, to 16 inch tires, TPMS's of all kinds, and NOT being able to get support from either the tire dealer or manufacturer when a problem arrises, in the forums, I'd have thought that everyone would be jumping for joy that the tire sellers and manufactures could be held accountable with proof of purchase, recall notifications, and length of tire tires where on the shelf before being installed. WOW, I still think that there's room to find more reasons to find fault with a law that is a great start to protecting the consumer... Oh wait, just thought of another reason to scuttle this law, they are violating my privacy. Please feel free to add to the list of why not to embrace this law.
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There's no need to embrace this law if one takes personal responsibility and follows through and sends in the post card with the tire numbers on it. If one ignores the opportunity to register the tires, why should the rest of us bear the extra cost that this law will create?
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12-13-2015, 09:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Denis4x4
There's no need to embrace this law if one takes personal responsibility and follows through and sends in the post card with the tire numbers on it. If one ignores the opportunity to register the tires, why should the rest of us bear the extra cost that this law will create?
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Because almost no one will register their tires themselves and because that is a public road that you are driving down with defective tires. You are putting my life and my kid's life at risk.
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12-13-2015, 10:48 AM
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12-13-2015, 11:01 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
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1975 24' Argosy 24
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I love all the "I can take care of myself the government should stay out of our business" talk here. What about the morons who *don't* take care of things and *aren't* responsible (probably the majority of cars on the road)? These laws are to protect us from idiots, not to make your life more difficult. Please think about the real reason these laws (or, as is the case here, *requests*) are actually created.
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12-13-2015, 11:23 AM
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Storm Master
2005 25' Classic
Austin
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Tire registration probably wont be too much of a hassle with how things are done electronically now a days. Maybe if tire manufacturers' would step up their game and make a trailer tire that had the same quality as most passenger and truck tires that are available out there. Back it with a mileage warranty and Stand behind the product. Then everybody could buy a designated trailer tire with confidence and not lose sleep over the whole tire quagmire. Come on American Tire Companies step it up and get it done!
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12-13-2015, 12:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ampman
Tire registration probably wont be too much of a hassle with how things are done electronically now a days. Maybe if tire manufacturers' would step up their game and make a trailer tire that had the same quality as most passenger and truck tires that are available out there. Back it with a mileage warranty and Stand behind the product. Then everybody could buy a designated trailer tire with confidence and not lose sleep over the whole tire quagmire. Come on American Tire Companies step it up and get it done!
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You don't need a trailer tire, only one with the carrying capacity for the load,most of the bad marathons were bruised from hitting curbs,were run low on air or run flat,or is 9 years old, or going down the highway 75 mph . How could one expect a warranty for one of these abused tires? I have 20,000 miles on my marathons and they are at 50 per cent...
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