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Old 12-13-2015, 09:40 AM   #15
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You know, with all the bitchin, moanin, and complaining about Goodyear Marathon tires (along with other brands), all the discussion of going from 14, to 15, to 16 inch tires, TPMS's of all kinds, and NOT being able to get support from either the tire dealer or manufacturer when a problem arrises, in the forums, I'd have thought that everyone would be jumping for joy that the tire sellers and manufactures could be held accountable with proof of purchase, recall notifications, and length of tire tires where on the shelf before being installed. WOW, I still think that there's room to find more reasons to find fault with a law that is a great start to protecting the consumer... Oh wait, just thought of another reason to scuttle this law, they are violating my privacy. Please feel free to add to the list of why not to embrace this law.
There's no need to embrace this law if one takes personal responsibility and follows through and sends in the post card with the tire numbers on it. If one ignores the opportunity to register the tires, why should the rest of us bear the extra cost that this law will create?
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Old 12-13-2015, 10:40 AM   #16
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There's no need to embrace this law if one takes personal responsibility and follows through and sends in the post card with the tire numbers on it. If one ignores the opportunity to register the tires, why should the rest of us bear the extra cost that this law will create?

Because almost no one will register their tires themselves and because that is a public road that you are driving down with defective tires. You are putting my life and my kid's life at risk.
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Old 12-13-2015, 11:48 AM   #17
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All about it.

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Old 12-13-2015, 12:01 PM   #18
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I love all the "I can take care of myself the government should stay out of our business" talk here. What about the morons who *don't* take care of things and *aren't* responsible (probably the majority of cars on the road)? These laws are to protect us from idiots, not to make your life more difficult. Please think about the real reason these laws (or, as is the case here, *requests*) are actually created.
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Old 12-13-2015, 12:23 PM   #19
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Tire registration probably wont be too much of a hassle with how things are done electronically now a days. Maybe if tire manufacturers' would step up their game and make a trailer tire that had the same quality as most passenger and truck tires that are available out there. Back it with a mileage warranty and Stand behind the product. Then everybody could buy a designated trailer tire with confidence and not lose sleep over the whole tire quagmire. Come on American Tire Companies step it up and get it done!
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Old 12-13-2015, 01:05 PM   #20
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Tire registration probably wont be too much of a hassle with how things are done electronically now a days. Maybe if tire manufacturers' would step up their game and make a trailer tire that had the same quality as most passenger and truck tires that are available out there. Back it with a mileage warranty and Stand behind the product. Then everybody could buy a designated trailer tire with confidence and not lose sleep over the whole tire quagmire. Come on American Tire Companies step it up and get it done!
You don't need a trailer tire, only one with the carrying capacity for the load,most of the bad marathons were bruised from hitting curbs,were run low on air or run flat,or is 9 years old, or going down the highway 75 mph . How could one expect a warranty for one of these abused tires? I have 20,000 miles on my marathons and they are at 50 per cent...
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Old 12-13-2015, 04:53 PM   #21
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Does this mean we have to notify the government when we sell our vehicle?
The law only works for those who follow it. The knuckle draggers who don't take care of their equipment will still be out there.
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Wow, this is cool, we have opened up the forums to heated political discussions. Could someone please tell me where the new sex and religion threads are. Politics bore me.

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Old 12-13-2015, 07:33 PM   #23
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Does this mean we have to notify the government when we sell our vehicle?
The law only works for those who follow it. The knuckle draggers who don't take care of their equipment will still be out there.
How do you sell a vehicle and have the government (to include state, county, city/town) not know you sold it because you get the privilege of paying copious amounts of taxes. A vast majority of states require license plates, title transfers when changing owners, so there are going to know, if your following the law(s). Just asking?
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Old 12-13-2015, 08:40 PM   #24
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This bill, Fixing America’s Surface Transportation Act or the ‘‘FAST Act’’ has been languishing in Congress for years. With elections next year Congress needed something shiny to wave at their constituents to prove that they could actually pass some kind of legislation.
As with most large bills there is plenty of opportunity to slip in unrelated items such as reauthorizing the Import-Export Bank, farm subsidies and a bank bailout, but, overall it's not bad. Tires fall into a very small section labled Vehicle Safety.

An excerpt from the Daily KOS sums up the parts relevant to our discussions;
1. It doesn’t cut current spending levels—including for public transportation. …..... $230 billion is authorized for highways, $60 billion for public transportation, $10 billion for passenger rail and $5 billion for highway safety programs. Basically, the same four to one ratio that’s existed since the early 1980s.
2. State DOTs have very wide authority over what they do with the funds—this is part of the continuing devolution of funding for services at the Federal level, which began in the early 1980s. You’ll find funds for specific programs in the 1,377-page bill but unlike earmark heavy SAFETEA-LU, you won’t find funds allocated for specific projects. That is left up to the states, who farm that out to metropolitan and rural planning organizations.

If we can get some of these roads fixed maybe we wouldn't have to worry about our tires and suspensions being beaten to death.

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Take a quick scroll through the table of contents then to use the search function of your PDF reader to pick out the item of interest.
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You don't need a trailer tire, only one with the carrying capacity for the load,most of the bad marathons were bruised from hitting curbs,were run low on air or run flat,or is 9 years old, or going down the highway 75 mph . How could one expect a warranty for one of these abused tires? I have 20,000 miles on my marathons and they are at 50 per cent...

ST tires are made to run on trailers but their quality and reliability are lacking is all I'm saying. Previous owner of my rig had the Marathons on it when one came uncorked and tore up the wheel well. My experience was with Maxxis ST tires. Cords let go with 50% tread left. Hard earned money down the drain on those pieces of junk. Michelins on the truck driving the same miles and hitting the same curbs, pot holes and worse are just fine. ST tire manufacturers ought to be ashamed of themselves for putting out such inferior products. My beef is with the manufacturers, first with poor quality and secondly with offshoring the work. They can do better. They won't be getting my money again.
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Old 12-13-2015, 10:14 PM   #26
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Call your congressman and tell them NO! We are already OVER REGULATED by the Government. We do not need this any more than half the other BS they require or mandate. I don't like my TPMS either, God, I have a gauge, own a car, maintane a car! Don't expect "mother" to remind/ do it for you. Gosh, Ive reread it, it already passed??? Who's paying for all this report/advise stuff???? More small business suffering unneeded added costs.. God I hate where this country is going!!!!!!!!!!!

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A few more FYI's:

Most state DOT's will NOT share vehicle owner information. That means that when a vehicle is sold, the tire manufacturer (or the vehicle manufacturer) can not know who the new owner is, in spite of the fact that the state DOT does.

Part of the quality problem with ST tires is the fact that trailer manufacturers do not use big enough tires (small load carrying capacity). Cars and trucks, by comparison, have been forced to use larger tires - and that might mean more government intrusion if trailers are to be brought up to the same level as cars and trucks.
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This bill, Fixing America’s Surface Transportation Act or the ‘‘FAST Act’’ has been languishing in Congress for years. With elections next year Congress needed something shiny to wave at their constituents to prove that they could actually pass some kind of legislation.
As with most large bills there is plenty of opportunity to slip in unrelated items such as reauthorizing the Import-Export Bank, farm subsidies and a bank bailout, but, overall it's not bad. Tires fall into a very small section labled Vehicle Safety.

An excerpt from the Daily KOS sums up the parts relevant to our discussions;
1. It doesn’t cut current spending levels—including for public transportation. …..... $230 billion is authorized for highways, $60 billion for public transportation, $10 billion for passenger rail and $5 billion for highway safety programs. Basically, the same four to one ratio that’s existed since the early 1980s.
2. State DOTs have very wide authority over what they do with the funds—this is part of the continuing devolution of funding for services at the Federal level, which began in the early 1980s. You’ll find funds for specific programs in the 1,377-page bill but unlike earmark heavy SAFETEA-LU, you won’t find funds allocated for specific projects. That is left up to the states, who farm that out to metropolitan and rural planning organizations.

If we can get some of these roads fixed maybe we wouldn't have to worry about our tires and suspensions being beaten to death.

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If you really want to take a taste of the Sausage here's a copy of the bill.
Take a quick scroll through the table of contents then to use the search function of your PDF reader to pick out the item of interest.
I would rather spend my time reading our Constitution that our "leaders" seem to be ignoring. Sal
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