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Old 10-03-2013, 02:07 PM   #15
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I just received 4 new Michelins with the 16 inch wheels. The fifth one has not arrived yet. As I was unwrapping them, I noticed three of them had small flat weights on the inside of the wheel and one had none. None of them had weights on the outside of the wheel. I was wondering if others had noticed this on their new 16 inch wheels.
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That always spooks me to see a tire and wheel with no weights. Hard to believe that the wheel and tire are perfectly in balance without weight. If I got one like that I'd probably bring it somewhere to be checked. I hate to assume, especially when you weren't there to see them balance the wheels. If you find it's out of balance, send the balance bill back to who ever you purchased them from.

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Old 10-03-2013, 02:16 PM   #16
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On my 2014 FC the wheels (15", GYM tires) came balanced from the factory. I changed them to the 16" with Michelin's and had them balanced where I got the tires (Costco).

I am pretty sure AS balances all wheels and tire assembly systems.
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That always spooks me to see a tire and wheel with no weights. Hard to believe that the wheel and tire are perfectly in balance without weight. If I got one like that I'd probably bring it somewhere to be checked. I hate to assume, especially when you weren't there to see them balance the wheels. If you find it's out of balance, send the balance bill back to who ever you purchased them from.

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That's funny you say that, because I was watching the fella at the tire store balance my LT tires when they were installed on the Sendel wheels. One of them he was working on required no weight ( the other three did ). When he saw that one was not going to need weight, he called me over there and showed me it was perfect as it was, and he said, "I didn't want you to think I missed balancing one of the four".
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The GYMs and wheels that were on my trailer when I bought it were as supplied by the factory. The PO had never put new tires on. There was no sign of them ever being balanced. One of the first things I did was put new tires on - GYMs from Tire Rack - and I had them installed and balanced by an independent shop I've dealt with for years (they are also a recommended Tire Rack installer). They balanced with hidden stick on weights. If properly balanced by a good shop for around $15-18 each wheel, there's no need to spend $50 each wheel for Centramatics.
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The GYMs and wheels that were on my trailer when I bought it were as supplied by the factory. The PO had never put new tires on. There was no sign of them ever being balanced. One of the first things I did was put new tires on - GYMs from Tire Rack - and I had them installed and balanced by an independent shop I've dealt with for years (they are also a recommended Tire Rack installer). They balanced with hidden stick on weights. If properly balanced by a good shop for around $15-18 each wheel, there's no need to spend $50 each wheel for Centramatics.

You assume that your hub and brake assembly are balanced. And that your stick on weights, never come off. And that mud, dirt, rocks, etc don't get stuck on things, throwing them out of balance. If a $50 centramatic helps keep a tire from failing and causing hundreds of dollars of damage, it is cheap insurance.
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Old 10-04-2013, 12:32 AM   #20
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The GYMs and wheels that were on my trailer when I bought it were as supplied by the factory. The PO had never put new tires on. There was no sign of them ever being balanced. One of the first things I did was put new tires on - GYMs from Tire Rack - and I had them installed and balanced by an independent shop I've dealt with for years (they are also a recommended Tire Rack installer). They balanced with hidden stick on weights. If properly balanced by a good shop for around $15-18 each wheel, there's no need to spend $50 each wheel for Centramatics.
Hi, this would be true if trailer brake drums were balanced, but they are not. Therefore I have Centramatics.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:46 PM   #21
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Hi, this would be true if trailer brake drums were balanced, but they are not. Therefore I have Centramatics.
Newer Airstreams have the NeverLube bearings and by design can't have Centramatics. Something about the way the wheels line up.
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Newer Airstreams have the NeverLube bearings and by design can't have Centramatics. Something about the way the wheels line up.
Hi, this has already been discussed; And I don't believe it. Centramatics will only off set the wheels about .030" or less, virtually nothing.
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Hi, this has already been discussed; And I don't believe it. Centramatics will only off set the wheels about .030" or less, virtually nothing.
I believe the maker of Centramatics has only said they haven't done enough testing. Not a no, but not a yes either. I think a lot of folks here have use them and reported being happy with them. I haven't. I'm tempted by dyna beads. Haven't done that yet either.
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I believe the maker of Centramatics has only said they haven't done enough testing. Not a no, but not a yes either. I think a lot of folks here have use them and reported being happy with them. I haven't. I'm tempted by dyna beads. Haven't done that yet either.

It's Dexter that says they haven't done the testing. I'm getting Centramatics.
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It's Dexter that says they haven't done the testing. I'm getting Centramatics.
Thanks for the correction. I forgot which magazine too - was it Blue Beret?
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Yes it was in Blue Beret. This is copied from a post I made in another Centramatic thread.

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I had a long talk with Jerry Robertson, Director of Tech Support at Centramatic, today. He was very familiar with the Schu's article in the Blue Beret and has been in touch with both Schu and the engineers at Dexter. He threw a lot of info at me but Ill try to summarize. In trying to pin Dexter down they admitted that it would take 1/4 to 1/2 inch of offset to cause bearing problems. Since the Centramatic is only about 20/1000ths thick,it shouldn't be a problem, but since Dexter had not tested the Centramatic they could not endorse it. He tried to get Airstream to print a clarification. They refused, saying since Dexter wouldn't give an OK they couldn't either.

Sounds like a lot of CYA. I'll be ordering mine.
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Going back to my question about new tire and wheel balancing, I took my new 16 inch wheels and tires into a tire shop to check the factory balance. One needed nothing, the one wheel that had no weights need one 1/4 oz. weight. One other need an additional 1/4 oz. weight, and the fourth one needed to be re-balanced. I realize balance machines may differ in results somewhat, but this place specializes in tires sales. So, I hope they were right. I did watch the entire process as they checked and balanced them.
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