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Old 06-17-2006, 03:39 AM   #1
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Need spare tire and wheel

I just bought a 2004 Classic 30SO and noticed it did not have a spare tire under it. Where can I buy a spare tire from (other than the dealer) ? Does anyone know of any places that sell used parts?

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Old 06-17-2006, 04:24 AM   #2
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Bobs RV just North of High Springs, North West of Gainsville is a good salvage yard for Airstreams. He is at 386 454 577, and this link gives details:
http://www.airforums.com/forum...t=bobs+salvage
Walts RV at Ocala is great for all things Airstream, though he repairs and sells whole trailers, rather than salvage. He is on 352 237 6813.
There are many other new wheels of the correct load rating and offset, available from automotive suppliers. If you try out the search facility you will find a vast amount of useful information.
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Old 06-17-2006, 01:48 PM   #3
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Go with the suggestion above.

Used RV wheel from an RV wrecking yard works well. (As long as the wheel is in good shape)

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Old 06-18-2006, 03:53 AM   #4
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Old 06-18-2006, 08:14 AM   #5
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I am not trying to sound like Inland Andy,,,,,, But I would like to know what the junkyard wheel has been thru, roll over , heat from fire, God only know what else,
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Old 06-18-2006, 03:12 PM   #6
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I am not trying to sound like Inland Andy,,,,,, But I would like to know what the junkyard wheel has been thru, roll over , heat from fire, God only know what else,

To some, the price they paid for the trailer and tow vehicle, because they wanted the best, is usually very signficant.

But, also to some people, safety isn't worth the price.

Interesting enough, many many things can and do go wrong with an Airstream trailer, even wrecking it (short of a rollover), but you still can get it back home.

Having a running gear problem, can stop that return trip.

An unknown history of a tire and especially a wheel, plus the wheels rating, is an inviation for disaster.

A rollover wheel is usually bent, but doesn't show it. Let a wheel come apart while traveling, usually costs many thousands of dollars to repair.

Maximum safety, should be the only words, used to describe their units running gear, AND, especially if they take their family.

Taking chances is a part of life, but I wonder how many Airstream owners would put a used tire and wheel, on a small airplane, and dare fly the plane??

I would like to think, ZERO, since it's not worth the risks involved.

There are many ways to save money when Airstreaming, but kicking maximum safety to the curb, is not sensibly, one of them.

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Old 06-18-2006, 03:41 PM   #7
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Andy,
Uhhhh I hate to brake the news to you, but a lot of airplanes are flying around with "used" tires. The manfacturer and the FAA approve them. You can recap a tire many times as long as the "Carcass" in serviceable.
Most Airliners have recaps on them since they are cheaper. Sometimes they come apart. At least you have the one next to it to support the weight.
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Old 06-18-2006, 09:47 PM   #8
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Airplane tires

And that's what they attributed the Concord crash in Paris to; sucked tire debris into the jet intake. That was the last nail in the coffin for the era of supersonic passenger service. Airplanes are (supposed to be) designed to accomodate tire failure. It's almost inevitable given the type of stress they undergo. I wonder though what the ruling is for private aviation. It seems losing the nose gear on a tricycle gear Cesna would make for a rough landing? Does the FAA mandate tire replacement every five years? They certainly go to great lengths to enforce service intervals on the engine.
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Re-Using Junkyard Wheels

I'm a new member and pleased I can actually provide some input!

I'm a 1200 hour private pilot and an aircraft owner since 1987. My aircraft tires have ranged from 0 - 120 months old. There is no "service life" other than what the airframe mechanic/ aircraft inspector approves during the 100 hour or annual condition inspection.

Regardless, wrecking an Airstream would seem a pity if the accident was attributed to a failed wheel. I suspect the same problem exists in all alloy wheels; the cost of performing a conclusive, non-destructive test (something like a Zyglo or X-Ray test) to certify the structural integretity probably exceeds the new replacement cost.

If wheels are available on the used market, is there any way to determine if they are safe to use?
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I have to agree there thecatsandi ,Sometimes they come apart?? On an airplane when landing ,enough said ,Andy is correct .


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Old 06-19-2006, 09:34 AM   #11
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There are very few absolutely certain or totaly risk free things in life but if I visualy inspected and spun a used wheel to check for wobble and it looked OK I would put in as near as you usually get to being 100% ok. Unless you pick your trailer up at factory you are buying trailer with used wheels that might very well have had a few hard bumps. There was an item in Trailer Life recently that said Airstream was having problems with cracked aluminum wheels on some late model trailers and was replacing them under warrany the article also stated that Airstream has changed suppliers for their tires and wheels.
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Old 06-19-2006, 11:06 AM   #12
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Andy,
Uhhhh I hate to brake the news to you, but a lot of airplanes are flying around with "used" tires. The manfacturer and the FAA approve them. You can recap a tire many times as long as the "Carcass" in serviceable.
Most Airliners have recaps on them since they are cheaper. Sometimes they come apart. At least you have the one next to it to support the weight.
The point is "unless you know the history of the tire and wheel, DON'T GO THERE".

FAA certified guarantees that knowledge.

JUNK YARDS don't have a clue.

And most importantly, a junk yard could have taken a tire and wheel off of a rollover.

Convince me that it is safe !! You can't and no one else can, simply because you have no idea what impact that tire and wheel took when it rolled.

I too am a 1200 hour pilot, but you won't catch me flying or riding in a plane where "safety" was discarded because of price.

That tells me a lot about the owner of that aircraft.

I agree, some societies, life has "ZERO" value. I like to think mine is worth a least a few bucks, even on a bad day.

Safety is a state of being safe. Safe is secure from harm, danger, free from injury or danger, not risky.

I especially like the last one, "NOT RISKY".

Not risky, is my motto, when I fly, drive, tow, walk, or drink.

Then I have done my best.

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Not risky, is my motto, when I fly, drive, tow, walk, or drink. Andy
All of the above is risky to some extent. Certainly being a pilot of a small plane takes on way more risk than flying in a commercial aircraft. And it is definately riskier that walking. So how can one get to zero risk. Well that, my friend, is not possible. Life is a risk no matter what anyone does.

In the area of wheels. Used or wrecking yard RV wheels seems to be an acceptable risk for me. After all, my friend, the wheels I have on my RV were used when I bought it in 2001. In fact the whole trailer was used to the extend of being 35 years old. A set of used anything does not automatically make them inferior. And being brand new does not take out the risk of failure.

So may be it is only my opinion, however I will take on that risk of used parts from a wrecking yard. With some restrictions. Wheels would be an acceptable risk for me.

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It seems losing the nose gear on a tricycle gear Cesna would make for a rough landing?
oooh! oooh!! I know this one!!!


I've actually DONE it!!


the answer is: not that bad, really. Kinda scared the crap out of me, but that don't take much. There was some vibration...the noise gave me a start, and the aircraft decelerated quicker than normal. then it was hard to steer. Once I figured out what the heck had happened, I was more afraid of dinging the prop while taxiing off the runway, than anything. (now THAT, my friend, is one expen$ive repair, let me tell you!). The aircraft I was most used to flying did not have much prop clearance, so this was a real hazzard. But not a problem in the Cessna. (I think, too, that not having a ton of time in the airplane made unexpected noises more scarey!).

airplane tires/wheels are so different than trailers, or any other ground based vehicle. We don't put alot of mileage on them; otoh...we do make them go from 0 to 60mph in an instant. 100+ with an airliner...500,000lbs + ....they leave half their tires on the runway after each landing. (well...some on the runway, a big chuck just goes up in a cloud of vaporized rubber). Its a different animal altogether.
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