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06-04-2008, 11:18 PM
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Whitefawn
1978 Argosy 24
Scottsville
, Virginia
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 98
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Need a spare tire with dual axles?
So far the couple of Airstream people we have run into since my husband and I bought our 1971 Overlander two weeks ago have told us not to worry about carrying a spare with our dual axle trailer- because we could (1) remove the offending tire and run on three tires, or (2) chain the axle up and ride on two tires. Why would we want to (or NOT want to) do either of those options, versus figuring out a way to carry a spare? How do you "chain the axle up"?
Kathy
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06-04-2008, 11:24 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whitefawn
So far the couple of Airstream people we have run into since my husband and I bought our 1971 Overlander two weeks ago have told us not to worry about carrying a spare with our dual axle trailer- because we could (1) remove the offending tire and run on three tires, or (2) chain the axle up and ride on two tires. Why would we want to (or NOT want to) do either of those options, versus figuring out a way to carry a spare? How do you "chain the axle up"?
Kathy
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Kathy.
You cannot chain the axle up. You can with a spring supported axle, but your axles are torsion.
A spare is carried underneath the front of the shell using a "Y" shaped tire carrier made by Airstream.
As a reminder 1974 and older axles are subject to failure due to rubber rod failures.
You can easily check your axles out by reading the following article.
Dura Torque Axle
Andy
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06-04-2008, 11:38 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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hi kathy and welcome to the forums...
Quote:
Originally Posted by whitefawn
...the couple of Airstream people we have run into since my husband and I bought our 1971 Overlander two weeks ago have told us not to worry about carrying a spare...
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absolute proof that even 'streams get into the hands of total idiots sometimes....
so IF you have a flat, just RUIN the other tire/tires limping at 35 mph till ya can get a new tire?
when a flat can be changed in 15 minutes and put you back at full speed ahead...
good grief...
i've got a triple axle and carry TWO spares...
so i agree completely, carry a spare and you don't need to "worry about it"...
cheers
2air'
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06-04-2008, 11:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 16' Bambi
1962 22' Safari
Yreka
, California
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,937
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Kathy,
Carry a spare! We had a 5th wheel some years back. The tires looked okay, but were older... went camping and in one place lost 3 tires.... Hummmm.... lucky we were near a little berg where there was a open tire place.... it was a Sunday late afternoon! They were great and got us back on the road in a little over an hour. A single spare wouldn't have done us so much good with that tire fiasco, but....
Mrs. NorCal Bambi ~ traveling in S Tardis from the Great State of Jefferson
Check out my new history blog on my little town: Yreka History
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06-05-2008, 12:11 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1978 31' Sovereign
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 133
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whitefawn
not to worry about carrying a spare with our dual axle trailer-
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While you can run on three wheels, you cannot plan on where you may have a tire failure. I lost a tire and used my spare 30 miles into a 300 mile trip. I then lost another in the middle of a national forest, which meant parking the trailer and a 70 mile round trip (race) to get to a tire store before it closed.
I now carry two spares.
Harry W
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06-05-2008, 12:18 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Airstream - Other
Airstream - Other
North Central Texas
, USA
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,003
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Carry a spare. Buy the bracket if you don't have one; the spare rides neatly tucked under the "A" frame, or put it in your TV, or put it in the shower, or strap it to the roof if necessary but carry a spare. 'nough said. Just IMHO!
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06-05-2008, 02:58 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,615
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I traveled for 2 years without a spare for my 75 TW. I was lucky that I never needed it. I bought a tire and wheel last year and it has been on the trailer twice. With tire shops closed on Sundays and sometimes a hundred miles between them, running on three is not a good option. My spare currently rides in the back of the truck.
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Richard
Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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06-05-2008, 06:29 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
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I did not carry a spare for the first 2 years as others have posted. I then purchased a wheel and tire from Southwest wheel. With in 6 weeks I was very glad I had the spare saved my butt. Get a spare.
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2012 International Serenity 28
2005 Safari 25 SS Traded
1968 Globetrotter Sold
2011 F150 Ecoboost
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06-05-2008, 06:38 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1948 22' Liner
1961 26' Overlander
1949 24' Limited
Springs
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 330
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Always carry a spare- its just good sense. Why risk the value of the trailer because you didn't want to carry a tire?
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06-05-2008, 06:49 AM
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Always Airstreaming!
2005 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
Anytown
, Connecticut
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,115
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Always, always have a spare! You would be extremely surprised at the damage a flat tire can cause flapping on the rim. Running with the tire off is NOT an option. Even with three axles not the damage to the two good ones after trying to limp with a wheel removed. Two perfectly good axles now out of balance.
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Sandi Gould
NEU New England Unit
Airstream Life Magazine
Proud Member of WBCCI
WBCCI #3411
AIR #17099
2009 Silverado 2500HD
2004 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
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06-05-2008, 06:49 AM
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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When I first bought a boat I never carried a spare.
Now I carry a spare.
Listen to the lessons learned by others, so that you don't have to learn them yourself.
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06-05-2008, 06:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by utee94
When I first bought a boat I never carried a spare.
Now I carry a spare.
Listen to the lessons learned by others, so that you don't have to learn them yourself.
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I carry a spare boat on my boat.
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2012 International Serenity 28
2005 Safari 25 SS Traded
1968 Globetrotter Sold
2011 F150 Ecoboost
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06-05-2008, 07:48 AM
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Whitefawn
1978 Argosy 24
Scottsville
, Virginia
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 98
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Don't spare the spare!
That's what I like- unambiguous replies! I will be ordering a spare pronto! I will worry about how to carry it later- we can always toss it in the back of the truck. Right now we have bigger fish to fry trying to get the major systems in order- burst water pipes, an AC that works but sounds like a jet airplane, and beds that were designed to accomodate munchkins are next on the list...
Thanks-
Kathy
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06-05-2008, 08:00 AM
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim Clark
I carry a spare boat on my boat.
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Ha!
You are a wise man indeed. Hole in the water that you throw money into. Similar to an Airstream I suppose...
-Marcus
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06-05-2008, 10:25 AM
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Always Airstreaming!
2005 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
Anytown
, Connecticut
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,115
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Quote:
Originally Posted by utee94
When I first bought a boat I never carried a spare.
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A spare for your boat? We never had a spare on our boat, what do you use it for? For that matter where does it go? Or maybe you have one of those anphibious cars?
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Sandi Gould
NEU New England Unit
Airstream Life Magazine
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AIR #17099
2009 Silverado 2500HD
2004 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
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06-10-2008, 05:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Altoona
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,644
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This is no
As all good stories start off, this is no . It was a beautiful Sunday afternoon in the middle of a state park in no where Texas and I was a dumping my tanks on my '34 ft Avion before I headed out to my next reservation. Well sir, the dump station had a huge steel plate that you drove over and stick'en up out of that plate, just under 2" long, was a 3/8th bolt. Sure as you are read'en this I drove over that bolt with all three wheels on the right side and, yup - you guessed it - three flat tires. Hey not a problem I got the service. Just call them suckers up on the ol cell phone, have a cool one, and I'll be back in business. Ha - not in no where Texas on a Sunday afternoon - no way - no how.
Then, just when I was a feel'en lower than a run over frog, along came a ranger who looked things over and went and got a 30 ton floor jack. Those of you not familiar with an Avion, they have independent swing axles. One for each axle. Me and that there ranger took off all 3 tires on the right side and the center one on the left side and put the spare and the center one from the left side onto the front and rear axles of the right side. That left the two center axles on both sides with no wheels what so ever ( did ya follow all that?). Drove to the town with my reserved rv space and the next morning, bought six new tires
Now! I'm here to tell you that I was mad as %*&%%$ at that ranger for a-hav'en that bolt stick'en out of that plate but at the same time, I could have kissed him for helping me out of a jam.
The moral of this story you ask? Damed if I know
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