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08-25-2018, 09:18 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Port Saint Lucie
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Mixing endurance and marathon
Had a blowout today using 2016 marathon 225 75 15
Hit some debris on i81 just north of Roanoke. Virginia road ranger via Virginia HP WAS MAGIC. THANK YOU GUYS.
Anyways am homeward bound to Florida. So my plan is to replace the blown tire with endurance and use it as a spare for the remainder of the trip running with four marathon and then replace the other marathons when back home.
Is there any major down side to this plan?
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08-25-2018, 10:02 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
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Many on the forum would seriously consider changing out ALL the GYMs instantly. Drive carefully
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08-25-2018, 10:38 PM
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Site Team
2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
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You’re fine. Definitely inspect the others.... if they look good head on home.
Good plan to replace all with endurance tires - much better tire.
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08-26-2018, 02:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ttsr4us
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Is there any major down side to this plan?
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Yes, the loss of life for you and your family, unless you don't consider this to be "major." Oh, and the loss of your AS.
Sounds like you dodged a bullet. Personally I would follow this advice:
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Originally Posted by rmkrum
Many on the forum would seriously consider changing out ALL the GYMs instantly. Drive carefully
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What are the dates of manufacture on your tires, including the blown tire?
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...jsp?techid=172
Any tire older than 5 years is suspect IMO, especially GYM's.
Good luck,
Peter
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08-26-2018, 02:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wulfraat
You’re fine. Definitely inspect the others.... if they look good head on home.
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Would you recommend inspecting the DOT date of mfg. for each tire?
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08-26-2018, 04:14 AM
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4 Rivet Member
Chelsea
, Maine
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You have a ‘16 FC, so the tires are likely 3-4 years old.
I would inspect for damage, and finding none, run them home and look for a good deal at that point.
I would not hesitate to run an Endurance with 3 Marathons. The tires simply support weight and spin, it’s not like there’s a differential that might get smoked due to mismatched tires.
Check pressure and keep your speed below 65 per the tire rating. You’ll be fine.
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08-26-2018, 06:15 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Fayetteville
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I thought this was a workout and physical training thread...[emoji17]
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08-26-2018, 06:44 AM
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CapriRacer
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I find it interesting that the OP states he hit some debris and many folks are ignoring that information in their recommendations.
People, tires are not immune to road hazards. You can argue that a Marathon has some issues, but this wasn't the result of that.
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08-26-2018, 06:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
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Good points but without knowing the DOT dates, everyone is flying blind IMO.
There are plenty of posts about older tires being in the mix, for whatever reason.
Why not take 5 minutes to check? An utterly simple owner awareness task . . .
Reward >>>>>> risk.
Peter
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08-26-2018, 09:20 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 28' Flying Cloud
Penn Yan
, New York
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Tires
I would not hesitate continuing back home with the Marathons. I hope u have tire monitors.
I would definitely check the remaining tires to insure they were not damaged.
Good luck.
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08-26-2018, 09:49 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CapriRacer
I find it interesting that the OP states he hit some debris and many folks are ignoring that information in their recommendations.
People, tires are not immune to road hazards. You can argue that a Marathon has some issues, but this wasn't the result of that.
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I'm still wondering why ST tires pick up nails and hit potholes that cause it to fail far far more often than LT tires.
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08-26-2018, 10:16 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Temple
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2016
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They usually blow out because of tire failure - this does not seem to be your issue, to take it home but replace the GYM asap, this spring we had a GYM failure on out 2014 FC and by the time we got home on our spare a second tire was separating - you are on the verge of problems with the GYM.s BTW we did get four new marathons - also our FC was in the body shop for a month forcing us to miss prime spring travel.
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08-26-2018, 03:26 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
Argyle
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Forget the brand. We had specific "trailer"tires that our tire person for 25 years deemed suitable. That blowout in a 25 foot cost over $3,000. In a 28 foot we had the same situation that cost us us $1,600. Not worth it. Put new tires on - new "trailer" tires. There is a difference. Good luck - as I am pretty sure you took the advice to drive through to home with what you had.
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08-26-2018, 03:31 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Port Saint Lucie
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2014
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I found a good shop only a small detour away and after consideration and talking to the other happy airstream campers where I’m parked up, I’m going for the full replacement program since the shop can get stock and fitted midday Tuesday
People here also mentioned metal valves and inflation at a much higher pressure than the marathons
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08-26-2018, 05:33 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
almena
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Mixing tires on single tire axles!!!
The answer to your question is no! Run ‘em ‘til they’re worn out or too old!
Motor On!!!
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08-26-2018, 05:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ttsr4us
I found a good shop only a small detour away and after consideration and talking to the other happy airstream campers where I’m parked up, I’m going for the full replacement program since the shop can get stock and fitted midday Tuesday
People here also mentioned metal valves and inflation at a much higher pressure than the marathons
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Excellent news, and a wise decision!
Peter
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08-26-2018, 06:46 PM
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Site Team
2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,555
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Mixing endurance and marathon
Quote:
Originally Posted by CapriRacer
I find it interesting that the OP states he hit some debris and many folks are ignoring that information in their recommendations.
People, tires are not immune to road hazards. You can argue that a Marathon has some issues, but this wasn't the result of that.
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Yup. Lost a one-year-old Goodyear marathon today to a road hazard. Stuff happens…
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08-27-2018, 01:44 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 30' Flying Cloud
Port Saint Lucie
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 32
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Psi on endurance tire 225 75 15
This tire is rated to 80 psi. E ratind
The marathons are 65 psi are D rated
I have alloy wheels. - can they take the higher inflation pressure of the endurance and is that wise given the sticker on the trailer stating 65 psi - I presume because the marathons came as standard and they max out at 65
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08-27-2018, 06:25 AM
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2017 25' International
Niagara-on-the-Lake
, ON Canada
Join Date: May 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ttsr4us
This tire is rated to 80 psi. E ratind
The marathons are 65 psi are D rated
I have alloy wheels. - can they take the higher inflation pressure of the endurance and is that wise given the sticker on the trailer stating 65 psi - I presume because the marathons came as standard and they max out at 65
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80 PSI is the maximum which is only needed if you have a load of 2,380 lbs per tire (ST225/75R15)! Why not weight your trailer axles, then check the load/inflation tables and inflate to an appropriate pressure that won't contribute to damage to your trailer because of too stiff a ride and still carry the load?
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