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Old 06-27-2015, 04:06 PM   #15
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"This has nothing to do with Airstream Eddie Bauer--Airstreams official position is that 15" Marathons are fine, and Eddie Nauer insisted in the 16's for a more aggressive look."

Airstream is also using 16" Michelin LTX M/S on the 2015-2016 Classic as the standard tire and it is optional on most other models. Deep in their hearts I think they know 15" Marathons are not so fine.
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Old 06-27-2015, 06:10 PM   #16
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Anything thoughts on the Yokohama RY215 for a rib tire for those with 15" rims?
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Michelin XPS RIB vs. LTX M/S2

I concur, Airstream is quite aware of the Marathon rumblings on this and other RV forums (it's just not the Airstream community). I really believe the Eddie Bauer was a test for Airstream and once they saw the acceptance of the Michelin tires and Sendels in this community, it was inevitable that we would see this on other model Airstreams. After all of all the dire warnings of some that the LT E rated tires would pop the rivets out, have any of you heard of that happening with the Eddie Bauers? That proved the switch to LT's wasn't detrimental to the trailer itself.

Airstream is a premium trailer and nothing says more to the premium side than equipping their flagship trailer with the 16" Michelin's. It's a matter of giving the customer what they want and luring other SOB owners aware or experiencing ST tire failures, another reason to move over to AS.

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Old 06-27-2015, 08:15 PM   #18
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Did Airstream owners discover the benefits of using the Michelin LTX's before they came out on the Eddie Bauer or was it only after that model came out that people started switching over to them? I guess what I am wondering is if Airstream gave everyone the idea or if the owners gave Airstream the idea.
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Old 06-28-2015, 02:06 AM   #19
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Re: History of GYM failures, and the first mention of 16" wheels and LT tires

If you search the Web, you'll find that GYMs that are installed as original equipment have always had problems on all brands and types of trailers. Complaints can be found on SOB travel trailer, and boat, horse, heavy equipment, and utility trailer forums.

The first mention on AirForums of switching to 16" wheels and LT tires appeared about 10 years ago, in 2005. If I am not mistaken, the discussion thread was initiated by Bob Thompson in this post: Tires...Tires...Tires

Note: The first time an Eddie Bauer Airstream was shown to the public was at the National RV Trade Show in Louisville, KY, on November 30, 2010.
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Yep, I think Airstream started considering the switch based on information on these forums. We've had some company folks from different levels within the company following the posts here for years. Some we know, some we don't. If they join as members, they tend to minimally post and keep a low profile.

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Anything thoughts on the Yokohama RY215 for a rib tire for those with 15" rims?
The RY215 is an excellent choice for tandem axle trailers with a GVW under #8,000 in my opinion.

For a '79 Sovereign, you'd be good to go.
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Thanks Top. The RY215 looks like a solid tire at a decent price. I noticed that for those with 16" rims, it's available in a 16" load range F as well.
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I also used the RY215 on my previous Silver Streak. A good choice
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Michelin XPS RIB vs. LTX M/S2

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It has been suggested the XPS Rib is a stiffer ride in reading I have done, and that's not the direction I want to go with our rather fragile Airstream. Airstream puts the Michelin 16" LTX M/S on their premium models. I have never seen a report of a blowout of these 16" LTX M/S so the reliability is there, although I doubt a blowout is a safety issue on a trailer, especially with tandem axles.

I see no advantage to XPS Rib over LTX M/S, and there may be a disadvantage in ride quality. Our LTX M/S have traveled about 20,000 miles so far with virtually no sign of wear.

The ride quality is the same as I stated having owned them both.The Rib is just a higher quality tire with a better sidewall that travel trailers require.
A blowout on any type of vehicle is a safety concern.What a foolish statement.


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I do not believe that the XPS Rib is a better or safer tire than the LTX m/s, except that it is a higher mileage tire and is designed to be useful in fleet retreading programs.

Most Airstream tires age out before they wear out.
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Not anymore. I placed a set of Ribs on my 2004 Sprinter service van and got over 90K miles from them.

I added a new set to my current 2011 Sprinter last May, and they were the WORST tire I have ever experienced. Massive oversteer during the 3600 Mike trip from FL to OR last year.

When I applied the Michelin 30 day satisfaction warranty to get them replaced, I went back to the LTX MS2 tires.

Discount Tire also said that the warranty on the Rib is now 60K, while the LTX Is still 70K.

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Wow Lewster, that surprises me. The information I have learned up to this point was the RIB was a great tire, but just expensive and not worth the extra money over the LTX. This is the first bad experience I have read about with the RIB. I'm not sure if whatever was causing the oversteer would have been a problem on a trailer though, unless perhaps it caused a tracking problem. Thanks again though for all the advice on these tires. It really helps to get advice from real people that have actually used the products.
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Wow Lewster, that surprises me. The information I have learned up to this point was the RIB was a great tire, but just expensive and not worth the extra money over the LTX. This is the first bad experience I have read about with the RIB. I'm not sure if whatever was causing the oversteer would have been a problem on a trailer though, unless perhaps it caused a tracking problem. Thanks again though for all the advice on these tires. It really helps to get advice from real people that have actually used the products.
Yes, that experience certainly was an eye-opener for me....especially after such a great first experience with the Ribs. When I started to notice the problems with the second set, I tried all the usual suspects: tire rotation, tire pressure, front end alignment, ect. Nothing changed!

I'll be staying with the LTX-MS2. These are my 4th set at a combined Sprinter mileage of 280,000. Never an issue.
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