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Old 05-27-2014, 08:43 AM   #57
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Update:

I received a reply from Airstream and I quote:

The rim size should be:
16x6
5.5 bolt pattern
4.25 center hole
with an offset of 0
The tire sizes that we use are LTX M/S LT 225/75R 16 Load Range E

This was in response to AS per the thread and asked them specifically about our AS.

So, AS is in with retro to 16" wheels and Michelin Tires. Now I am waiting to see what Michelin says.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:49 PM   #58
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It appears my lingering question is 'answered' - I COULD use 235 75R15 Michelins as alternatives to the native 225 75R15 on my trailer... yes?

I have the original (well, minus one thanks to Tow Masters) Alcoa aluminum wheels on our 2004 31' Classic.

Had a blow out on one Tow Master tire, didn't notice, took out a second. Destroyed one wheel I now need to find a replacement for. After roadside repair, long weekend, on return trip a 3rd Tow Master blew (didn't notice, passing motorist flagged me, caught it in time)

Bottom line, I'm in the market for 5 new tires and a wheel. I need tires that handle or exceed the minimum recommended load rating, need/want to survive towing over 55 MPH (it happens.) Price is not an issue, safety is first.

#1 choice would be Michelin - I have NEVER had an issue with a Michelin tire on ANYTHING. #2, #3, #4... seem to be Goodyear, Goodrich or Maxxis - just not sure which order to stack the last 3. Carlisle seems to be used a lot but in question.

Open to which tires have lasted the longest - 5, 10, 15k miles or more.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:54 PM   #59
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AS noted LT tires as being okay. Light truck tires , not car tires or XL tires. Also load range E. Jim
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It appears my lingering question is 'answered' - I COULD use 235 75R15 Michelins as alternatives to the native 225 75R15 on my trailer... yes?

I have the original (well, minus one thanks to Tow Masters) Alcoa aluminum wheels on our 2004 31' Classic.

Had a blow out on one Tow Master tire, didn't notice, took out a second. Destroyed one wheel I now need to find a replacement for. After roadside repair, long weekend, on return trip a 3rd Tow Master blew (didn't notice, passing motorist flagged me, caught it in time)

Bottom line, I'm in the market for 5 new tires and a wheel. I need tires that handle or exceed the minimum recommended load rating, need/want to survive towing over 55 MPH (it happens.) Price is not an issue, safety is first.

#1 choice would be Michelin - I have NEVER had an issue with a Michelin tire on ANYTHING. #2, #3, #4... seem to be Goodyear, Goodrich or Maxxis - just not sure which order to stack the last 3. Carlisle seems to be used a lot but in question.

Open to which tires have lasted the longest - 5, 10, 15k miles or more.
GoodYear Wrangler HT ?
load range D LT
215/75-15, 2096 pounds at 65 psi

or

GoodYear Cargo G26 ?
load range D Commercial LT
225/70-15 2470 pounds at 65 psi
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Old 05-27-2014, 02:35 PM   #61
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GoodYear Wrangler HT ?
load range D LT
215/75-15, 2096 pounds at 65 psi

or

GoodYear Cargo G26 ?
load range D Commercial LT
225/70-15 2470 pounds at 65 psi
I would use the cargo G26 on a newer airstream and the Yokohama RY215 on an older trailer.
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It appears my lingering question is 'answered' - I COULD use 235 75R15 Michelins as alternatives to the native 225 75R15 on my trailer... yes? ....
I think we need a bit more information.

Like what Load Range are the ST225/75R15's.

Like what does the vehicle tire placard say about size and inflation pressure?

Also, what about the GAWR's?

Have you weighed the trailer? If so, what were the results?
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Old 05-28-2014, 07:36 AM   #63
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Just an FYI for those that haven't been RV ing long enough to have learned firsthand: LT tires were what was originally used on travel trailers, long before ST tires were invented.
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I joined the Michelin club today, 4 new 235/75 R15 LTX M/S2 tires. Manufacture date of 13/14 and Made in the USA! The tow home was only 5 miles so hard to tell how they will do on the Interstate.

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Old 05-28-2014, 08:05 AM   #65
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Just an FYI for those that haven't been RV ing long enough to have learned firsthand: LT tires were what was originally used on travel trailers, long before ST tires were invented.
Hmmm? That was also a time when manuals and recommendations were written by engineers, not attorneys. With all respect for attorneys, the corporate fear syndrome has reduced recommendations for using anything designed more for self protection than of value to the end user.

Now, back under my rock.

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I having been running Michelin P235 75 15XL tires for a year now (about 10,000 miles). I am extremely happy with them. My trailer is a 2002 Safari 25. Tire capacity well exceeds trailer loaded weight.

Do your research on Air Forums about these 15" XL tires there are a number of posts about them by Capri Racer and Andrew T from Can Am.
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Decision has been made. Had a very nice and professional phone call last night from the head of consumer relations at Airstream in Jackson Center. He explained how the Michelins on the Eddie Bauer came about and that Michelins 16" will be standard on all Classics in 2015. Lots of other details as it was a fairly lengthy conversation - again very nice and professional and very helpful.

New Sendel T03-66655T 16" wheels ordered and should be here on Monday, tires will be in on Friday Michelin LTX 16" 235x75R Load Range E and all will be installed on Wednesday of next week in time for a quick one week trip. Then in August the "retirement" trip east to west and north to south.

Thanks for input, help and advice.

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I'm somewhat curious. Was the Eddie Bauer a test bed for the feasibility of switching? I think Airstream has listened to their owners and lost confidence with the Marathons on the heavy trailers. I'm sure the many posts here on the forum have fed back to management along with new purchasers placing orders for tire swaps.

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I'm somewhat curious. Was the Eddie Bauer a test bed for the feasibility of switching? I think Airstream has listened to their owners and lost confidence with the Marathons on the heavy trailers. I'm sure the many posts here on the forum have fed back to management along with new purchasers placing orders for tire swaps.

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One would hope that for what this brand sells for, that good sense prevailed, and the decision was made to stop cutting corners on such an important item.
We have horse trailers, and I can tell you that when you start getting into the pricey brands, you start seeing LT tires as fitted from the factory.
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I joined the Michelin club today, 4 new 235/75 R15 LTX M/S2 tires. Manufacture date of 13/14 and Made in the USA! The tow home was only 5 miles so hard to tell how they will do on the Interstate.

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Welcome to the club. I have the exact same ones on my trailer.

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