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Old 05-23-2014, 07:23 AM   #15
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With the trailer you have you are probably at the upper end of the weight limit on the 15" tires. Have you taken it to the scales fully loaded and ready to travel?
If you plan on taking the tires back, get the money and upgrade to a 16" LT tire. LT tires are approved for trailer use!
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:53 AM   #16
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Allow me to clear something up. Michelin as dreditied the dealer for the full cost of the tires, installation including balancing and disposal of the GYM tires. PLUS credited the dealer the exact same amount of money, in total, for them to install any ST tire I choose on our AS. as long as the Michelin tires are returned to Michelin and we install ST tires. As I noted earlier, having been on the Michelin side my entire career in other industries in my mind something is up. Michelin told me it was to compensate me for my time and effort, did not say it was due to their mistake, but it was implied. So we are going to go with an ST tire and probably change to 16" wheels and LT next winter after our 10-12,000 mile trip this late summer and fall.

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Old 05-24-2014, 08:04 AM   #17
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In that case go with bias ply st tires.
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:07 AM   #18
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Are you saying you think the tires you had weren't really round? Bruce Beard wrote a thread about that in the forums somewhere...
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:19 AM   #19
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It would be helpful on these threads if the OP would post the complete tire info and not just the size. Like LT or P or ST. Same size tires can have dif ratings and applications. Vastly dif tires and uses. Thanks, jim
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:42 AM   #20
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Anybody here running 15" using the GoodYear Cargo G26 ??
225/70-15C is a load range D ( 65 psi ) tire with 2470 lbs of capacity.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....5G26&tab=Sizes

I'd let the tire store buy me the ST tires....then pull them off as brand new and sell them on craigslist or similar, then put LT's on it. A bit of hassle, but worth it my opinion.
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Old 05-24-2014, 08:51 AM   #21
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Anybody here running 15" using the GoodYear Cargo G26 ??
225/70-15C is a load range D ( 65 psi ) tire with 2470 lbs of capacity.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....5G26&tab=Sizes

I'd let the tire store buy me the ST tires....then pull them off as brand new and sell them on craigslist or similar, then put LT's on it. A bit of hassle, but worth it my opinion.

Why go to all that trouble. Just take your empty rims to Discount Tires and have them install the LT tires. No questions asked, they just mounted and balanced and I took them home and installed.
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Why go to all that trouble. Just take your empty rims to Discount Tires and have them install the LT tires. No questions asked, they just mounted and balanced and I took them home and installed.
I worded it that way because the OP stated that as a condition, Michelin said they would would credit the store for full amount...and all that yada yada "if" he let them install ST tires.
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I wouldn't run ST radials even if they were free. I would still buy my own LT tires.
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Old 05-24-2014, 09:07 AM   #24
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Speaking of tires and changing them out, I really want to recommend that every AS owner with 2 axles should consider the Trailer Aid as shown below. It is worth it's weight in gold, IMHO. Forget jacking your AS, just drive on the Trailer Aid and there you are.

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Not sure about the 15" tires but I can say that Michelin 16" LTX tires are used by Airstream, mounted on the Sendel rims and sold as an OEM solution. Many have followed that same prescription- tires and rim type. If you look online many vendors now call LT tires "light truck/trailer tires designed to carry heavier loads"
add to that some fifth wheels come with LT tires as well. Truck tires have torsion tests (steering and weight) and are also load rated. These are not opinions. Good Year has been able to get away with inferior product for too long at the cost of consumers. I am not sure why the tire companies do not realize this and take advantage of it but right now the best "tested" products that carry loads are the LT/LTX tires. Avoid the passenger car tires though. Oh and interestingly there is a Michelin chart for mounting tires to different applications.

read this from Tire Rack on this subject:

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Also consider that Special Trailer (ST), as well as Light Truck (LT) tires are fully rated for trailer applications. This means ST- and LT-sized tires can carry the full weight rating branded on the sidewalls when used on a trailer.
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In my work I use a lot of cargo trailers. Some of my trailers came with ST tires new, but most came with LT tires.

The ST tires didn't wear long even if they didn't blow before they wore out, which they often did.

I run LT tires exclusively. My trailers don't do anything weird, they pull fine.

Now part two, the human side (me) and the Commercial side, (tire manufacturers and retail sales)

I went to my local tire shop and asked that LT tires be installed on my rims, the man behind the counter told me I needed trailer tires. Taking his advise, I disregarded 30 years of personal experience when I gave in.

I just went to the Discount tire website where I read up on trailer tires a bit.

In the description it stated that ST tires are designed to last between 5,000 and 12,000 miles......

What?? Lol seriously? No wonder tire manufacturers push a culture that says ST tires must be used on trailers.

Who thinks tire manufacturers won't push a position based on nothing but dirty money, but claim "safety"?

Never happen right?
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To be more specific....

... the OP's tires are not truck tires. Although they have "LTX" in their nomenclature, they are, in fact, P-metric passenger car tires that are rated for light truck use. They are, as others have pointed out, not at all the same tire as the LT225/75-16 MS/2 load range E tires that Airstream puts on the EB as standard equipment and other trailers as an option. The similarity of nomenclature chosen by Michelin is confusing, particularly in the case of trailer use. While I can not find anything on Michelin's site regarding the LT MS/2s, Tire Rack states that LT tires are approved for trailer use and the Ribs are listed in Michelin's RV guide.

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Thanks, Al. Been trying to get that said. Thanks again... Jim
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