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Old 06-29-2011, 07:03 AM   #21
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Does your Ambassador have aluminum wheels rated for 65 psi or the steel wheels rated for 50 psi? I notice that the Yokohama's listed above are for 65 psi (load range D, I guess). On my older Excella I went with the 235 Michlens in load range C because they carry 1985 lbs at 50 psi.
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In preparation for our upcoming 1,800 mile trip, I started getting serious about getting new tires. Yesterday I went to Discount Tire. They could not get the Yokohama RY 215 in the time frame I need them. (today) They have four Michelin LTX MS2s in stock. This afternoon I'm going to get Abby shod with new Michelins.

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Abby has the original steel wheels. Maybe someday I'll get some 16" Aluminum wheels.
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Old 06-29-2011, 07:26 AM   #23
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I ordered a set of Michelin tires (LT 235 75 15 XL) for my 2004 25 Safari.
I make at least one hot weather trip a year and have had a lot of blowouts with ST tires, GYM's Carlises, no names everything but Maxxis'.
I thought I was o.k. with E rated tires but on my recent trip from Tucson to Santa Fe, 100 degree outside temp all the way, one of my Carlises blew up.
With my new tires, I will look forward to going 70 m.p.h., not changing a tire by the side of the road in 100 degree weather with traffic screaming by and not burning up my charge card buying tires all across the South.
I would have gone with a 70 series tire to get one with a D load range but we do a lot of remote camping and need all the ground clearance we can get.
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Old 06-29-2011, 08:44 AM   #24
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I currently have the newest version Michelin 235/15 lt ms2 xl on my 68 Globetrotter. Even when fully deflated, I couldn't fit them into the wheelhouses by myself. I'm 6 feet 185 lbs and healthy. I needed help.
They Will fit and have good clearance and flawless performance, but you won't be changing them on the roadside by yourself, and you'll need a pump to reinflate them once bolted up.

It is a real struggle to get them on, and you'll have to deform the the trailer a little. All that being said, I still wouldn't use any other tire but a Michelin.

My axle trailing armangles are well within spec, but it may be easier with brand new axles.

I was "bustin" tires for Sears on a Coats 10-10 back in the sixties, and have been around tires ever since. I think that if you put a dial indicator on a mounted Michelin, you'll find that they may be the roundest tire in the world. Michelins are a very high quality product, I drive on nothing else. Same tire on my Tow Vehicle.
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This afternoon I went to Discount Tire and had four Michelin P235/75/15 Extra Load mounted on my old steel rims. I bolted them on this evening. They were not too bad to install at all. There are no problems with clearance. There is lots of room all around. Now we're ready to get out on the road in the Texas heat!
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Old 07-06-2011, 04:37 PM   #26
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In preparation for our upcoming 1,800 mile trip, I started getting serious about getting new tires. Yesterday I went to Discount Tire. They could not get the Yokohama RY 215 in the time frame I need them. (today) They have four Michelin LTX MS2s in stock. This afternoon I'm going to get Abby shod with new Michelins.

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Abby has the original steel wheels. Maybe someday I'll get some 16" Aluminum wheels.
I purchased the Michelin P 235/75 15 LTX MS2 XL for my 2004 25 foot Safari today. They went on the stock aluminum rims. I noticed a big difference for the better in ride quality during the 20 mile trip home. Ride was rough and my rig would hobby horse with load range E ST tires. All of those ride deficiencies are gone. There were no swaying or other handling deficiencies. I ran up to 70 mph and the rig felt rock solid.
These are P (passenger tires) although the XL (extra load) means they have the same load capacity as C rated LT tires.
Each tire is rated for 2185 lbs, plenty of capacity for my 6300 gvw capacity Safari.
There is plenty of clearance in the wheel wells. I am confident I can change one of these tires as easily as my 225 75 ST tires and believe me I had plenty of practice doing that.
Price was $139 a tire. ST tires are over a $100. My tire troubles are over. Halaluliah!
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:25 PM   #27
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I put them on about a month ago and have only about 1,000 miles on them but they ride great with no difference in mileage and handling from my GYMs. You got a better price than me, however.
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:54 PM   #28
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FYI, All the space shuttle tires were made by Michelin.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:23 AM   #29
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I put them on about a month ago and have only about 1,000 miles on them but they ride great with no difference in mileage and handling from my GYMs. You got a better price than me, however.
Oops, actually I put the LT type on, not the P. I think they cost about $160 from Tire Rack.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:48 AM   #30
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Would these work for 19' Bambi? I'm ready for new tires and these sound pretty nice.
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Old 07-07-2011, 07:20 AM   #31
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blmitch5, I'd check the load ratings on the 235/75x15 XL versus 225/75x16 LT Load Range E tires. The 19-foot Bambi only has two tires, while it appears that most of the others responding to this thread have older, larger Airstreams with 4 tires, which have less load per tire. These might be overloaded on your Airstream.

Check several other tire threads for details on other 19-foot Airstreams that have successfully made the switch to 16 inch wheels. I don't think I have read any posts about failures on these.
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Thanks! Not sure I want to go to 16s but might have to. Tire failure isn't great when you only have 2!
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Old 07-08-2011, 03:12 PM   #33
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I noticed that the Yokahama RY215 (7.00R15) tires have a diameter of 29.4". This is the same as the Michelin LTX M/S LT225/75R16/E tire. Does this mean that the Yokahama is just as tight in the Airstream wheel well as the Michelin? The Michelin LTX M/S2 P235/75R15/XL has a diameter of 28.9" (closer to the stock Goodyear Marathon), but it's a 235 instead of 225. All things considered, which of the above tires would fit better in the Airstream wheel well (and spare tire rack)? All three tires seem to be highly recommended.
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Old 07-08-2011, 03:38 PM   #34
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Oh, and one more question. Will both the Yokahama RY215 and the Michelin LTX M/S P235/75R15/XL fit on the stock Airstream (2012 FC 25FB) wheel?
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Just an observation and a comment...

That 0.5-inch difference in diameter is only 1/4 inch in radius, which is insignificant. The more important question is the tire cross-section width. Most of the problems are fitting the width of the tire between the brakes, hub and studs, and the wheel well trim.

For those wondering how these compare to 225/75x16's, the "RY215" is load range D, rated at 2040 pounds at 65 psi.

Michelin 225/75x16 load range E tires are rated at 2680 pounds at 80 psi.

For a 19-foot Bambi that weighs around 4500 pounds, the LR-E tires are probably a better bet. However, this is just another opinion...
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Today I managed to get to the CAT scales. What I learned was that fully loaded I'm putting about 1,415 pounds on each of the four tires on Abby. That is a pretty good safety margin for the tire's load capacity. All of the details and axle weights are on the thread in my signature block.
So far I'm very satisfied with these tires.
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We have an '07 19' Bambi, and upsized to 225/75-16 LRE Michelin XPS Ribs. The fit between the hub and wheel well rim was a little tight, but they do go on fully inflated.
We previously had an '05 16', which came with 14's, and I know Airstream enlarged the wheel wells on those a year or two later when they went to 15" wheels. Not sure if Airstream also enlarged the 19' wheel wells since '04.
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We have a 2005 19-foot Bambi, with 225/75x16, LR-E, Michelin XPS Ribs; and the tires will NOT go on inflated. Consequently, we have to carry an air compressor with us in case of a flat. However, since the XPS Ribs are nearly bullet proof, not worrying about a blowout is worth it, on the off-chance I may have to change a flat tire.

We are planning a trip to Jackson Center to have the wheel well trim repaired from the original Marathon blowout that led to a switch to Maxxis tires (that failed for tread separation), and finally to 16-inch wheels with XPS Ribs. (I wish these Michelins had come on our Bambi from the factory.) In any case, we plan to see if the factory will put the Eddie Bauer fender skirts on our Bambi, as it appears they might allow the tires to be changed while inflated.
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Oh, and one more question. Will both the Yokahama RY215 and the Michelin LTX M/S P235/75R15/XL fit on the stock Airstream (2012 FC 25FB) wheel?
I tried to install that tire on my 05 Safari but the rims were too wide. The Yokohama is a great tire but I couldn't see buying new rims so I went to the Michelins. I was told by an Airstream dealer they will fit even though though they are out of spec. Also if you have any chance of being in snow , that tire will have poor breaking traction.
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About a month ago we replaced the 15" stock rims with 16" Sendel T03-66655 style. These are the same as the EB rim without the black paint hi-lites, just a frosted silver finish. Prices vary a lot and we paid about $89 each plus shipping. We then put Michelin LTX 225/16/16 E on and couldn't be happier. They fit the 27FB wheel well without any issues at all and look really solid.

For the spare I junked the ugly steel rim and bought a rim to match to the other 4 wheels. So now I have 5 identical wheels. If something happens to one I can swap in the spare and it looks the same. I can also make it part of the rotation series too.

To fit the spare into the holder, I put a deep 1" socket on a 1/2" ratchet and pulled the 2 posts apart that hold the spare tire in place. It really didn't take much force and the spare now sits fine in the cradle at the front.
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