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Old 05-09-2011, 08:27 PM   #1
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Michelin LTX M/S versus Michelin LTX M/S 2 - Which Would You Choose?

Suppose you had to choose between Michelin LTX M/S or Michelin LTX M/S 2 tires? Which would you choose?

Here are the links to Michelin's website for both:

LTX M/S
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Assume whatever AS you like and assume the price is the same for each.

Which would you choose and WHY?
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Old 05-09-2011, 08:44 PM   #2
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Price being equal, I'd go with the LTX M/S2. They can carry more weight than the original LTX M/S. To top it all off they are cheaper than the LTX M/S on Tire Rack. Both have an A for Temp. That is a great thing in Texas.
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I had this same question and emailed Michelin in South Carolina for an answer. The popular 225/75/16 is not being released in the M/S 2 version until the 4th quarter of 2012. Only the M/S 1 is available now in that size.

Given that my Marathons likely won't last that long I'll be going with the M/S version 1.
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Silver' may have answered the question—if M/S 2 isn't available, no choice.

But, if it is available, I'd look at the predicted miles for each—they may tell you estimated miles, or warrant them for different miles. This may be a function of tread depth or different rubber. It relates to cost, which although the OP doesn't want us to consider it, I always do.

Using 5 years as the upper limit to use the tires (people disagree on that too and I think Michelin says you can go longer), how many miles will you travel after you buy tires? If the answer is 25,000 (probably more than most people travel), buy the M/S version that lasts the shortest time assuming it is cheaper. If it is 50,000 miles (more like us), buy a longer lasting version. If I recall correctly, the LTX M/S is supposed to last 50 or 60,000 miles. It's on their website.

What are the other characteristics of the tire—tread design, how quickly it stops, performance on wet and snow surfaces. This can matter depending where you live and where you go. Smoothness of ride is not too important I think, because Michelin engineers tires for a smooth ride.

We did not have to decide. Only the M/S version was available when we switched. M/S 2 was available when we got tires for the 4Runner and the price difference was inconsequential or only the M/S2 was available in that size (memory lapse). We got M/S A/T2 load range E for the Tundra because they would last a very long time and we put them on as the crummy OEM Goodrich tires were wearing fast at 18,000 miles. Even though they are nominally all terrain, the A/T 2's ride more smoothly than the P load range C rated OEM tires.

I believe the M/S load range E version will support the weight of any Airstream trailer. Weight is directly related to air pressure. You will be running the tires at less than the maximum pressure and that can equalize any weight differences between tires.

So, choice is dependent on factors different for each application, but I hope my thought process offers some help.

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Great responses! I appreciate the advice. As it turns out, I'm upgrading 14" to 15" on my 17' Sport....and as it turns out the MS and MS2 are both available in 15". My dealer is telling me that the MS is better than the MS2 in terms of puncture resistance as it has more belts than the MS2. I can't find anything to support that statement. I'm interested in tread wear and such just like the next guy, but in the big scheme of things if I could have one feature in a tire it would be that it wouldn't go flat due to puncture.

Does anyone have any info that compares the puncture resistance of each of these two tires?
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We recently saw a brand new Eddie Bauer 25ft front bedroom trailer on display at Windish RV in Lakewood Co, and saw that Airstream has placed Michelin LTX M/S 225X75X16 tires on it. I immediately called Airstream Inc and Randy in Customer Service said the folks who spec'd the trailer from Eddie Bauier requested the Michelins in the build.
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The MS2 looks like an improvement in all aspects rated on their web site. I like the look of the tread better too. But I already have brand new MS1s so by the time I need replacements I will probably be looking at MS3 or 4!
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I just picked up six MS/2s p235/75/15 for a 34' Excella I need to pick up in CA. The load carrying capacity is different for the tires I purchased and those described on the Michelin website: 2183 lbs.@50 psi for the 6 I purchased and 1985 lbs.@50 psi for the tires specd. on the website. My tires also have added text on the sidewall stating "extra load carry capacity", or something like that. Same item# 36210 as the website MS/2s. I bought the 6 tires at Sam's club in Winston-Salem, NC on April 30 with a $70 discount on 4. Maybe our Sam's Club made some sort of a special purchase? I will post more info. on the road and in 3 weeks when I get back to NC on how they run on the 34' if there is interest. I've got to get on the road now; 2800 miles hopefully by next Thursday.
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I just picked up six MS/2s p235/75/15 for a 34' Excella I need to pick up in CA. .
That's the tire being recommended by our local dealer and saves having to change the rims. My concern was the Load Range C of those rather than D of the Marathons currently on the trailer.

I've bought the 16" Sendel T03 rims and am waiting for the 225/75/16 which are Load Range E due to my concern about the Load Range on the 235's.
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Are these P(assenger) tires rather than LT tires? I think you'd better look further into this because passenger tires may not be appropriate for a trailer. They appear to be Load Range C rather than the recommended D or E. I know the weights on the tables seem to make sense for some P tires, but I think they are engineered differently and are for cars and some light pickups.

Our '07 Tundra came with P tires, Load Range C. That seemed strange. They were low quality Goodrich tires and were wearing quickly so we got rid of them and put Michelin LT Load Range E tires on.

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I just picked up six MS/2s p235/75/15 for a 34' Excella I need to pick up in CA.
i used P tires on a car trailer for 1 trip for 150 miles. the handling was terrible compared to the prior belted trailer tires. i'd return those tires.
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Have you considered XPS Rib?

To my knowledge, they are the only tire that Michelin advocates for RV use.

Heavy and expensive, but all steel construction for peace of mind...

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Have you considered XPS Rib?
...all steel construction for peace of mind...
That's gotta' make for a really rough ride

I did look at the XPS Rib but since JC is selling the LTX 225/75/16 as an upgrade I figure it would be fine.
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That's gotta' make for a really rough ride

I did look at the XPS Rib but since JC is selling the LTX 225/75/16 as an upgrade I figure it would be fine.
It's only rough if you air it up too much. I found as long as you match your weight to the pressure table, it's just fine.
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