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Old 01-25-2016, 07:17 AM   #169
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After a couple migraines from this thread, like I stated earlier I'm going with Maxxis 225/75 15R E rated ST tires. Michelin are without a doubt excellent tires & the 15" application will probably do well but yet to be proven unlike the 16" application which are available in LT E rated tires. Maybe Michelins next time when they have a real track record.
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I have kept up with most of the tire threads on this forum for the past few years and the previous Michelin tire (LTX MS2)with less weight rating has a large fan base with no reported problems except for typical nails or other road debris. If past history is any indicator the newer tire (Defender) should be just as good if not better with the slightly better weight rating. The track record for using a quality passenger car tire is there......
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Old 01-25-2016, 08:43 AM   #170
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Just an FYI:

I was dealing with a local Discount Tire store when I needed to replace tires on my trailer. They insisted that trailers needed ST tires and refused to sell me P type tires for my trailer. This in spite of the fact that they knew my background and I pointed out that I could show them notes in the Tire and Rim Yearbook where TRA says it is permissible.

HOWEVER, when I brought them new tires I bought from Tire Rack and mounted tires on wheels, they did the exchange without asking questions.
LOL! Arguing with a tire engineer. This post shows you how "smart" the employees of the nation tire stores are.
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Old 01-25-2016, 12:12 PM   #171
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Most sales personnel at the tire stores earn commissions on what they sell. That often colors their suggestions. Personnel staffing the store can experience high turnover rates so their knowledge base can be quite shallow.

The informed consumer who comes in and states exactly what he/she wants based upon his/her experience with the vehicle in question trumps the salesman chatter.

The parting comment os the customer walks out the door:

"Since your store does not wish to sell me what I want to purchase, Adios. I will acquire what I need elsewhere and will not ever be back."
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Just bought a 1966 20' Globetrotter and it has ST225/75R15 tires. Not necessarily want to upgrade to 16". What LT Michelin would be recommended?
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Just bought a 1966 20' Globetrotter and it has ST225/75R15 tires. Not necessarily want to upgrade to 16". What LT Michelin would be recommended?

Is that a single or double axle? If single - the Michelin you're talking about has to be de-rated 10% for use on a trailer so it basically carries 1985# per tire. If a single axle, you have 3970# of load carrying capacity though most would suggest you want to leave about 10% "headroom" meaning your trailer (if single axle) shouldn't weigh more than about 3600# loaded for camping. If a double axle, you'd have 7840# of carrying capacity or with some headroom, 7200# loaded for camping.

Given that and the weight of your trailer, you should be able to decide whether those Michelins will work for you or not. As an FYI - my double axle 27FB weighs in at about 6000# on the scales and I use the Michelin 15" tires. I'll be starting my 4th year of camping this spring - only trouble was when I scuffed them on a curb and replaced them out of an abundance of caution (with very few miles on them and an assurance they'd be ok...).

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I just replaced my LTX M/S tires at only 35k miles. Hated them! Extremely dangerous on wet pavement. I bought them originally because they were so highly consumer rated but man, what a major disappointment they turned out to be. Didn't expect to have to replace them for at least another two years. Put them on new in August of 2013. They had zero traction on wet roads.

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I just replaced my LTX M/S tires at only 35k miles.
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What did you replace them with?
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I just replaced my LTX M/S tires at only 35k miles. Hated them! Extremely dangerous on wet pavement. I bought them originally because they were so highly consumer rated but man, what a major disappointment they turned out to be. Didn't expect to have to replace them for at least another two years. Put them on new in August of 2013. They had zero traction on wet roads.

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You had them on what? This is a discussion about tires on a travel trailer.
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Old 02-01-2016, 07:10 PM   #177
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Michelin Defender LTX M/S 235/75-15 109T XL

Well shucks, I was going to come back to this thread in March...

So, moving storage spots a couple days ago, I filled up my GYMs on my '16 27FB FC to 65 psi with my inflator.

I ran my hand across the carcass on the rear right tire, and found an odd discontinuity or depression in the sidewall rubber. It was maybe 1/4" in depth, and extended about 1" of the sidewall.

I found a similar depression in one of the other tires.

We've only towed the Airstream from Colonial to Tampa, then one three day trip to Cedar Key FL. No bumps I'm aware of, and kept to 65 mph.

Just asking the experts here (I am not one) how soon do I need to replace the GYMs?

Immediately?

Before our big trip out west this summer?

Sometime later this year?

Thanks!

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Don't freak out and jump to conclusions based upon some opinions on the forum...but make an educated analysis.
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Very timely post. I have noticed the same indentations in the sidewalls of my still new GYM tires, and it's good to know that it's normal for a radial tire.
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........I ran my hand across the carcass on the rear right tire, and found an odd discontinuity or depression in the sidewall rubber. It was maybe 1/4" in depth, and extended about 1" of the sidewall.

I found a similar depression in one of the other tires. .......

Just asking the experts here (I am not one) how soon do I need to replace the GYMs? ......

Rich
Those depressions are nothing to worry about. They are called indentations and you can find at least one in EVERY tire, if you look hard enough. They are the overlap of the ply cords, It's actually stronger there than in the other spots.

But to answer your question about age, there is some disagreement, but most folks say that tires on trailers need to be replaced every 5 years. You car and truck are different and that range is 6 to 10 years.
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^^^ Got it. Thanks. Rich
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Andy at CanAm suggested I run 44 psi in the 15" Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires on the 2013 25FB. I use 44 psi now on our 2015 23D (which has a 1,300 pound lower GVW than the 25FB) with the same sized 15" Michelin tires .
I have the same tires on my 2014 23D. The side walls say 50 PSI for 2185 max load. I'm wondering why Andy suggests 44 PSI.
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